Scratch-built models

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Fast and Spurious

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Thursday 12th October 2017
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Just completed, my latest model is an AAV-7.
Basic hull shape milled from a block of plastic then finished by hand. Many of the details are etched brass, others are formed from plastic rod, sheet etc.



dr_gn

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Thursday 12th October 2017
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Looks like a kit at first glance - always good to see a model made from scratch.

Fast and Spurious

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Thursday 12th October 2017
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Thank you, that is very kind of you to say. I don't find it easy to make these models to my "ideal" standard!

Eric Mc

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272 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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It would be good if you could show some Work in Progress pictures.

SAB888

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214 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Would like to know how this was actually done! Presumably scaled drawings were used to get the accuracy, but what was the process for getting the finished model?

Fast and Spurious

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Eric Mc said:
It would be good if you could show some Work in Progress pictures.
Sorry - bit annoyed with myself but I didn't actually take any of this one. Next one I do I will take some and describe the process.

Fast and Spurious

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Friday 13th October 2017
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SAB888 said:
Would like to know how this was actually done! Presumably scaled drawings were used to get the accuracy, but what was the process for getting the finished model?
Hi, what I did for this one is buy a Tamiya 1/35th model to work from - as they are very good in terms of accuracy. I then work from that, draw the basic shape and create some milling plans i.e. how to create the basic shape with the milling machine, starting with a block of plastic. Once the basic shape is milled (with as many angled cuts as is possible) you then get into hand finishing i.e. curved surfaces created by hand with a file and then wet-and-dry paper. Meanwhile the fine details are drawn with CAD, and etched in brass. These are then added to the basic shape, in some cases built up in layers to create the required 3D form. Then the finishing touches are done by hand; miliputt, plastic rod etc. Here are some WIP photos of an earlier project... the wheels/tyres and made up of 8-10 layers of etched brass.


Two versions nearing completion;


Masters completed:


Edited by Fast and Spurious on Friday 13th October 00:14

2thumbs

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Friday 13th October 2017
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dr_gn said:
Looks like a kit at first glance - always good to see a model made from scratch.
I Too thought I was looking at a kit there, how do you get to that from a block of plastic! very nice. I like the idea of modeling something from styrene sheets but have yet to have a go. I've made a few balsa wood boats from scratch but that easy to work with.

Fast and Spurious

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I Too thought I was looking at a kit there, how do you get to that from a block of plastic! very nice. I like the idea of modeling something from styrene sheets but have yet to have a go. I've made a few balsa wood boats from scratch but that easy to work with.
Just time, patience and a bit of OCD I guess! I have been building models for quite a few years and first starting scratch-building in my early teens.... then when I started again about 14 years ago it was very crude but I gradually improved as I went along. I reckon about 40-50 hours work go into one of these models, a lot of that is CAD time and preparation. Along with the AAV-7 I also completed an M1A1;


SAB888

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Friday 13th October 2017
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Fast and Spurious said:
SAB888 said:
Would like to know how this was actually done! Presumably scaled drawings were used to get the accuracy, but what was the process for getting the finished model?
Hi, what I did for this one is buy a Tamiya 1/35th model to work from - as they are very good in terms of accuracy. I then work from that, draw the basic shape and create some milling plans i.e. how to create the basic shape with the milling machine, starting with a block of plastic. Once the basic shape is milled (with as many angled cuts as is possible) you then get into hand finishing i.e. curved surfaces created by hand with a file and then wet-and-dry paper. Meanwhile the fine details are drawn with CAD, and etched in brass. These are then added to the basic shape, in some cases built up in layers to create the required 3D form. Then the finishing touches are done by hand; miliputt, plastic rod etc. Here are some WIP photos of an earlier project... the wheels/tyres and made up of 8-10 layers of etched brass.
Now that is some serious modelling! A hell of a lot of work and the finished models look fantastic.

Fast and Spurious

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Friday 13th October 2017
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Thank you very much. I forgot to mention the scale, they are 1:220


SAB888

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Friday 13th October 2017
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Fast and Spurious said:
Thank you very much. I forgot to mention the scale, they are 1:220

That's even more incredible!

Eric Mc

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272 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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Fast and Spurious said:
Sorry - bit annoyed with myself but I didn't actually take any of this one. Next one I do I will take some and describe the process.
Thanks. I would definitely find your techniques interesting.

Based on what you do, I could see me having a go at 1/144 airport service vehicles.

generationx

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112 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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Holy cow, you just blew my mind

kuro

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126 months

Saturday 14th October 2017
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Fast and Spurious said:
Thank you very much. I forgot to mention the scale, they are 1:220

Now you are just showing off. wink Honestly though, that is some great work. I wouldn't have a clue where to start.

Fast and Spurious

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generationx said:
Holy cow, you just blew my mind
Girls used to tell me that wink

Fast and Spurious

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kuro said:
Now you are just showing off. wink Honestly though, that is some great work. I wouldn't have a clue where to start.
Sorry...was showing off a little (I do cheekily like to see people guess the scale of them).

You say you wouldn't have a clue where to start but when I first started I didn't have a clue, my first models were very crude, but have learnt over the years bit by bit. What it has demonstrated to me, genuinely, is if you put enough time and effort into something you can achieve anything. It helped that I have always enjoying making models (therapeutic after a day in the office) and am fascinated by miniature stuff. Very enjoyable to me, but perhaps making watches would have been more lucrative!

Fast and Spurious

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Eric Mc said:
Thanks. I would definitely find your techniques interesting.

Based on what you do, I could see me having a go at 1/144 airport service vehicles.
I don't see why not, just need some basic skills and some time and patience.

My next model will be a German Panther G tank, I'll do my best to document the process.

LaurasOtherHalf

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203 months

Saturday 14th October 2017
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open thread
read first few posts
scroll for a few more pictures

OMG

with scale that is seriously impressive! I have to ask why no paint though?

kuro

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126 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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Fast and Spurious said:
kuro said:
Now you are just showing off. wink Honestly though, that is some great work. I wouldn't have a clue where to start.
Sorry...was showing off a little (I do cheekily like to see people guess the scale of them).

You say you wouldn't have a clue where to start but when I first started I didn't have a clue, my first models were very crude, but have learnt over the years bit by bit. What it has demonstrated to me, genuinely, is if you put enough time and effort into something you can achieve anything. It helped that I have always enjoying making models (therapeutic after a day in the office) and am fascinated by miniature stuff. Very enjoyable to me, but perhaps making watches would have been more lucrative!
Is the milling done by cnc from 3d cad models? What software do you use?