Looking for an adhesive/filler

Looking for an adhesive/filler

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Simpo Two

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87,036 posts

272 months

Monday 29th May 2017
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I'm halfway through a woodturning project, and stuck. The piece of wood has a massive crack in it, and if I continue with hollowing out the middle in to a vase, it will fly apart:



I have some clear polyester resin, but it's very runny and hard to use. Is there a clear - or possibly black - adhesive filler that I can force into the cracks to hold it all together? It need to stick well and not shrink. Thanks!

anonymous-user

61 months

Monday 29th May 2017
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Not sure about specific products, one two idea (I have done similar but not the same) is to make a damn out of tape and blutac and pour in the runny resin into the space. Once hardened you can then turn off the excess.

Other option would be to see if you can die some car filler to an interesting colour and use that. Powdered die should work if you can get any?

Simpo Two

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87,036 posts

272 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Thanks - car body filler might work, and I have some. Never tried a dye before - does anyone have an idea as to what would make a good black dye?

951TSE

600 posts

164 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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How about something like Milliput? https://www.milliput.com/ it's available in black. It comes in two tubes you mix the two parts in equal portions with your fingers and then press into the crack.

I've seen other turners on youtube use it for projects so it should be alright to turn it and sand it after it's set.

Simpo Two

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87,036 posts

272 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Does it have adhesive properties? This thing will be basically two halves when I turn the middle out...!

Skii

1,689 posts

198 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Sawdust mixed with pva glue ?

951TSE

600 posts

164 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Simpo Two said:
Does it have adhesive properties? This thing will be basically two halves when I turn the middle out...!
Well if you mean the Milliput then their website says:


Why Milliput?

The Most Versatile Material Available. It is:

Self hardening
Non shrinking
Tough and durable
Sets underwater
Electrically insulating
Water, heat and chemical resistant
Highly adhesive to most materials
Moulds like putty - sets like rock


So that would be a yes. It's just a thick epoxy resin so in effect should work as well as a thick araldite. Also works in the Marine environment which you are also interested in I believe?


Fastpedeller

3,971 posts

153 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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I suspect you really know (like the rest of us) that it's a waste of time to even try - just use a new piece of wood!

anonymous-user

61 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Not a waste of time at all. There are many examples of resin filled turned bowls and similar items. If well stuck together then it should be fine.

Perhaps what is more of an important point is how dry the timber is? If it is wet then further drying, distortion and splitting may occur which may cause further splitting. If it is already dry (circa 10% moisture content) then that shouldn’t be a problem.

Concrete dye as mentioned in the other thread? anything powdered should work in theory to dye resin or filler.

Simpo Two

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87,036 posts

272 months

Thursday 1st June 2017
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Fastpedeller said:
I suspect you really know (like the rest of us) that it's a waste of time to even try - just use a new piece of wood!
Well if it was a lump of pine, yes, but that piece is unique, and lovely, and I've spent a lot of time getting this far would lke to save it if possible. If my plan - black Milliput seems like the best answer - doesn't work then at least I tried smile Thanks 951TSE for the idea!

Simpo Two

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87,036 posts

272 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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By way of conclusion, I found black Milliput to be excellent. Not exactly black, very dark grey, but other than that it did the job perfectly. Here are some photos of the finished, err, thingy...









I think it's lovely but don't actually like it!

Eric Mc

122,854 posts

272 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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I think your work has enhanced it.

Fastpedeller

3,971 posts

153 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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That's impressive - I stand corrected as I thought no adhesive/filler would take the strain. That looks really good!

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

125 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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It's the holy grail!

Simpo Two

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87,036 posts

272 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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cbmotorsport said:
It's the holy grail!
Whilst I like the richness of the grain it does have a certain sombre look; I can imagine a Victorian keeping his dog's ashes in it.

It was a lot of work though but I think someone can have it for Christmas...