Softening plastic with heat - what should I use?

Softening plastic with heat - what should I use?

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TallTony

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380 posts

212 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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Hi, I hope this is an appropriate place to ask - for a work project I need to soften a stick of plastic (polypropylene, 2mm think) and stick onto another piece of plastic at an angle.

So I need a heat source that does not use a flame and can be repeatable/controllable.

I was thinking a simple hot-plate would suffice but ideally I want something small so that risk of my staff burning themselves is small. a lot of modelling is delicate and micro, I was wondering if anyone could make any suggestions

Thanks, Tony

Eric Mc

122,854 posts

272 months

Sunday 28th May 2017
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Hair drier?

dr_gn

16,405 posts

191 months

Sunday 28th May 2017
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If I understand what you're doing (plastic welding), you'd be better applying heat directly to the joint with something like a thermostatic controlled soldering iron. The technique can be used for scale models - you could buy a modelling welding kit back in the 70's, but never caught on for fine work.

There are videos on welding polypropylene online if you do a search.

sunbeam alpine

7,079 posts

195 months

Sunday 28th May 2017
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Hot air paint stripper?

dr_gn

16,405 posts

191 months

Sunday 28th May 2017
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If the o/p wants to join a rod to a plate using heat (I think that's what he wants to do), both parts need to be melted locally within the join.

dr_gn

16,405 posts

191 months

Sunday 28th May 2017
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Here's a modelling plastic welder (Airfix Magazine Feb '77!)


TallTony

Original Poster:

380 posts

212 months

Monday 29th May 2017
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Thanks for the replies everyone.

A little more detail...

This is for a project at work which will involve making many thousands of this part, so it needs to be a quick repeatable process. It is a project and at this stage I'm not looking to spend a huge amount, just have something that will get past H&S and be easily used. What I think would be perfect is a small desk-mounted heat source such as a mini hotplate or small hotair blower than I can rest the plastic stick against to soften. I have seen small portable single-ring ones with ceramic glass top which is perfect but the size of the heating element is whatever a cooker ring size is (20cm?). I can see there being a risk of burning oneself plus the volume of heat will be big. A 1" plate would be great.

I do like the idea of a hotair blower, I know it's handheld but can quickly be switched on and off. Shall research that one, we safely use soldering irons so it's a similar process.

blue van

50 posts

136 months

Monday 29th May 2017
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Ultrasonic welding may do it

CubanPete

3,638 posts

195 months

Monday 29th May 2017
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blue van said:
Ultrasonic welding may do it
Beat me to it! This would be my suggestion also.



Something like a hot knife used for cutting / sealing rope might work.

For a production process you need to think about fume extraction too.

mcdjl

5,489 posts

202 months

Monday 29th May 2017
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Id have said laser welder but that wouldn't be cheap and would be fussy about the plastics used. Could you use a small induction hob, with a 1" bit of iron held in position. That'd get hot, but the rest stay cold and be cheap.

Murph7355

38,899 posts

263 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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How big are the pieces?

If you're making "many thousands" might it be better to 3d print it or mould it as one part?

bmw320ci

595 posts

233 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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soldering iron?

Yertis

18,665 posts

273 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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Mr Pointy said:
I've got one of those and while great for heat shrink I don't think they would be precise enough for this job.

Yertis

18,665 posts

273 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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But this is of interest to me having recently botched up a piece of trim on the TR when I'd just finished putting a whole bunch of stuff back together, and have found a whole family of new tools to fascinate me on eBay – plastic welding rod? Never knew such a thing existed.