1/48 Revell Junkers Ju87B-2 Stuka

1/48 Revell Junkers Ju87B-2 Stuka

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jamieduff1981

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8,043 posts

147 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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Evening all,

I've now completed a Stuka I thought I'd share.

It's the Revell boxing, built OOB save for Eduard fabric seatbelts (I'll revert to PE in future - I didn't get on so well with these to be honest) and an Eduard Brassin MG15 machine gun to replace the kit item.

Paints are all Colourcoats, but I used Humbrol clear coats. The stencils and crosses were from the Revell decal sheet. The ID markings and nose art were from an old FCM Battle of Britain decal sheet, and the Swastikas were from Xtradecal.

The aerial is Infini Model Lycra Rigging Line, Fine / 70 denier (0.091mm diameter).












Eric Mc

122,854 posts

272 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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Looks fantastic. An evil looking bird if ever there was one.

jamieduff1981

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8,043 posts

147 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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Thank you Eric. It looks like it was designed on an Etchasketch, but it's certainly a menacing looking aircraft.

Eric Mc

122,854 posts

272 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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When you stand beside the real one that has been on display at the RAF Museum, you realise just how massive those things really were.

bomma220

14,599 posts

132 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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A lovely build there chap, well done!

I haven't built anything for ages now but I do like reading this thread. I did build a Stuka some years ago - IIRC it was a 1/32 Revell? Desert camouflage thing with a huge white & red snake along the length of the fuselage. No pics I'm afraid, but did look quite impressive smile

Ayahuasca

27,428 posts

286 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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Nice..

Is there a bomb attached underneath?

jamieduff1981

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147 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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Eric Mc said:
When you stand beside the real one that has been on display at the RAF Museum, you realise just how massive those things really were.
I saw it about 13 years ago, but it was a trip organised as part of RAF training and frankly it was too rushed to really look at everything. I keep meaning to go back for a proper look at several of the very interesting exhibits they have there!


bomma220 said:
A lovely build there chap, well done!

I haven't built anything for ages now but I do like reading this thread. I did build a Stuka some years ago - IIRC it was a 1/32 Revell? Desert camouflage thing with a huge white & red snake along the length of the fuselage. No pics I'm afraid, but did look quite impressive smile
This one? If so, it's the same kit! biggrin I just wanted to use a decal set I had for Battle of Britain aircraft.




Ayahuasca said:
Nice..

Is there a bomb attached underneath?
Hi yes there is. I can't lay it upside down because the aerial mast is too weak.



Ayahuasca

27,428 posts

286 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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smile

I used to have one of these when I was a kid:



With an actual dropping bomb! Wish I still had it...


bomma220

14,599 posts

132 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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jamieduff1981 said:
Eric Mc said:
When you stand beside the real one that has been on display at the RAF Museum, you realise just how massive those things really were.
I saw it about 13 years ago, but it was a trip organised as part of RAF training and frankly it was too rushed to really look at everything. I keep meaning to go back for a proper look at several of the very interesting exhibits they have there!


bomma220 said:
A lovely build there chap, well done!

I haven't built anything for ages now but I do like reading this thread. I did build a Stuka some years ago - IIRC it was a 1/32 Revell? Desert camouflage thing with a huge white & red snake along the length of the fuselage. No pics I'm afraid, but did look quite impressive smile
This one? If so, it's the same kit! biggrin I just wanted to use a decal set I had for Battle of Britain aircraft.


That's the one chap, lovely model!




Ayahuasca said:
Nice..

Is there a bomb attached underneath?
Hi yes there is. I can't lay it upside down because the aerial mast is too weak.

dr_gn

16,406 posts

191 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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Very nice job. It's surprising what a big difference decent gun barrels and belts make to the look of a model.

I used some of Eduard's new steel belts for my last build (Eduard 1:72 FW190). They were OK, but personally thought they were too thin despite them supposedly being more scale than brass. I thought the old Eduard p/e belts were fine.

jamieduff1981

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8,043 posts

147 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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Hi Dr,

I agree, I like PE belts well enough so will just stick with those. I can bend them to shape and they'll stay that way. I felt the superfabric weave was much too coarse and what was gained in the gimmicky fabric effect was lost in that the buckles were painted on to the fabric. I found them hard to stick down too. I'm nit picking really - they are in, and the look fine. I just prefer the PE version that's all.

The Brassin guns were really nice. I have almost enough left over for my He-111 build but will need another packet. The pitot is Albion Alloys brass tube too. I'd have used the lovely Ultracast exhausts if I'd had them, but I fitted the kit ones a day before we did a deal with the latter. I've compared the two and really wished I hadn't already fitted the kit ones, but it would do more harm than good removing them as they were a very firm fit. There's always next time!

The lycra stuff I used for the aerial is good if one is prone to clumsiness as I can be!

marcosgt

11,093 posts

183 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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jamieduff1981 said:
Evening all,

I've now completed a Stuka I thought I'd share.

...the Swastikas were from Xtradecal.
Lovely work - I used to make kits up to my late teens (hmmmm - 30+ years ago now!), but I don't think I could do them justice these days. I certainly never got your standard of finish.

Do kits not come with Swastikas these days or were the Xtradecal ones just better? I notice the image on the Revell box doesn't show one on the tail.

M

Eric Mc

122,854 posts

272 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Most Luftwaffe kits don't come with Swastikas. In fact, even 40 plus years ago Swastikas weren't always supplied. Xtradecal come to the rescue in a lot of cases for me. I also have a sheet of Swastikas that came free with Scale Aircraft Modelling in around 1982 - so that shows how far back the need for after market Swastika decals goes.

jamieduff1981

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Tuesday 26th July 2016
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As Eric says, they're generally not included. The Swastika as I'm sure you know is banned from display in Germany and many non-modelling sorts take offence at the sight of it in general. Revell is a German/American company so they're a big no-no as a rule from Revell kits.

Some Asian manufacturers still include them. I recently purchased the rather expensive Tamiya Fiesler Fi156 Storch kit which includes two decal sheets; the second a small supplementary sheet with swastikas. Some Chinese manufacturers include swastika decals split down the middle and arranged on the sheet so as not to display swastikas. I suppose the logic is that if the modeller can work out what to do with them, the modeller is free to do so!

dr_gn

16,406 posts

191 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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I just finished building the latest Eduard (Czech Republic manufacturer) Fw190 for a magazine review. It came with two sets of full swastikas, plus some split in half versions that obviously don't look like swastikas until you apply and orientate them correctly. I'm guessing my boxing came straight from the manufacturer rather than an importer, and the full versions would be cut off the end of the decal sheet, leaving the diy versions. I was surprised they were included at all TBH.

Eric Mc

122,854 posts

272 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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I have some MPM and RS kits with those split Swastikas.

AER

1,142 posts

277 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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What happens to kits with Finnish airforce decal sheets...?

Eric Mc

122,854 posts

272 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Up until fairly recently, there appeared to be no problems with non-Nazi swastikas. However, of late, some kit decal sheets and some box art depictions have "fudged" the swastika to some extent.

As ever, the solution is always after-market decal sheets so it will always be possible to complete the kit accurately.

The pre-war Latvian air force also used a swastika -


marcosgt

11,093 posts

183 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Interesting, it was probably about 40 years ago I gave up making aircraft kits, but I don't recall swastikas being an issue then, but now the issue with the symbol in Germany (especially) is mentioned I guess it makes sense in a more globalised world (silly though it seems, a bit like the refusal to allow tobacco sponsorship on £150+ diecast model cars because they're 'toys').

M.

Eric Mc

122,854 posts

272 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Even 40 years ago not all WW" German aircraft kits featured Swastikas.
And, contrary to what you may read, the Swastika CAN be displayed in Germany in certain circumstances.