Airfix Control Tower - Info?

Airfix Control Tower - Info?

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dr_gn

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191 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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I've got this old favourite in the stash (along with all the old Airfix RAF vehicle sets) to finally build to a good standard rather than my childhood efforts:



I was wondering if anyone (Lufbramatt?) knew if it was based upon a specific tower, or was it - as I suspect - generic of the type?

Also, does anyone know of any online references, or books about WW2 control towers that show the subtle detail of these buildings? I'm looking for references for what was in the watch tower at the top, and things like anemometer/meteorology/singalling equipment.

Ta.

lufbramatt

5,424 posts

141 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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As far as I know it wasn't based on a particular location, nor even a particular type, as it has features from various different types of tower merged into one. It dates from the 1960s IIRC. Sadly since we moved office I don't have access to the archives any more otherwise I would have looked it up.

If anyone would know it would either be Jeremy Brook of the Airfix collectors club or Arthur Ward, I'm sure they have contact details somewhere on the internet.

The best example I have seen for interior refs is the preserved tower at Elvington, which has all the equipment set up as if it was 1943- although that doesn't have the "greenhouse" on the top...

dr_gn

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191 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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Ok thanks for that. Coincidence that I'm perusing "Classic Kits" by Arthur Ward at the moment. Sad, but true.

I thought there was a preserved WW2 tower at Carew in Pembrokeshire, but when I was on holiday down there last year I got the impression it had closed down for some reason.

Not sure if the one at Finmere is still there IIRC it was delapidated in the 80's. Also not sure if Silverstone's tower has survived the chavvish destruction of the old circuit.

lufbramatt

5,424 posts

141 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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I have that book too smile

It looks like they reduced the size of the mouldings by making the kit 2/3rds the size of what it should be- the towers I can find pictures of that are a similar style all seem to be 3 windows wide whereas the airfix kit is only 2 windows wide. Tangmere, Molesworth, Goxhill, even Duxford "almost" match if you added another window bay to each side of the building.

ninja-lewis

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197 months

perdu

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206 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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ninja-lewis said:
OMG anorak alert smile

The Airfix control tower is a bit like the tower at Halfpenny Green

A bit

They do however have a good coffee machine

Eric Mc

122,843 posts

272 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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It's also 1/76 (as its states on the box) as were most of Airfix' airfield accessories of that era - which was a rather strange choice of scale given they were intended for display with 1/72 aircraft.

Scalemates shows that the kit is even more ancient than I thought - 1958!


BristolRich

545 posts

140 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Eric Mc said:
It's also 1/76 (as its states on the box) as were most of Airfix' airfield accessories of that era - which was a rather strange choice of scale given they were intended for display with 1/72 aircraft.

Scalemates shows that the kit is even more ancient than I thought - 1958!

I suspect it was intended (bizarrly) as part of the (very ahead of its time) model railway kits Airfix (ex-Kitmaster) produced....House, Shops, Garage, Railway Buildings, Locos and Wagons...all OO Gauge = 1/76 scale.

Eric Mc

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272 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Absolutely - but it was better suited for displaying with their aircraft models. Indeed, they went on to produce a refueling and an emergency vehicle set - both to 1/76.

To be fair, 1/76 is not madly out of scale - and their new airfield vehicle sets ARE to 1/72.

The Classic British Kits Special Interest Group display at Telford was centered on the Kitmaster range of railway accessories.



dr_gn

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191 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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If it's a generic design, how can you judge what scale it is? The combination of real building tolerances and the quality of the mouldings on "standard" items like drainpipes and doors mean that it's pretty much irrelevant.

Eric Mc

122,843 posts

272 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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As you say, it doesn't matter that much. The odd scale is probably a bit more relevant for their vehicle sets.

Any time I've seen it built up it always looks a bit "false" - often just "plonked" into an airfield diorama. I think that's because I've never really seen an example properly weathered or blended into the base - which is what I think the trick is with modelling buildings.

However,I'm sure you'll make a good job of it.

I was surprised at how old it was. I didn't realise that it went all the way back to 1958. It's as old as me!

Actually, looking at the buildings in the background on the Roy Cross artwork, I've just realised they bear a very close resemblance to the admin buildings that used to be on Farnborough Airfield before the whole site was redeveloped.

72twink

963 posts

249 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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perdu said:
They do however have a good coffee machine
Coffee machine ........... Coffee machine ............. My local tower (West Malling) has gone the whole hog and is now a Costa!

(Whilst that in itself is a crime the state it had got into prior to the take over was just as punishable)

Yertis

18,640 posts

273 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Knowing your work from these pages, I think to get to where you'd want to be, I wouldn't start with that kit. You may as well start out scratch building.

Wacky Racer

38,964 posts

254 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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We went to the one in Elvington last year, very interesting...like being back in 1941...smile

Off topic:-

Also visited Bletchley Park last month, a must see if you are down near Milton Keynes.....(See hut number 6).

Eric Mc

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272 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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I think I read somewhere that in World War 2 the RAF referred to these buildings as Watch Towers rather than Control Towers.

dr_gn

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Friday 4th December 2015
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ninja-lewis said:
looks an interesting thread, but no images on mine.

perdu

4,884 posts

206 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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72twink said:
perdu said:
They do however have a good coffee machine
Coffee machine ........... Coffee machine ............. My local tower (West Malling) has gone the whole hog and is now a Costa!

(Whilst that in itself is a crime the state it had got into prior to the take over was just as punishable)
Oh they have a cafeteria which had a broken 'summatorother' that necessitated using the machine outside the hatch instead of getting 'a cup of coffee please'

Funny old world innit

TvrTone

288 posts

213 months

Saturday 5th December 2015
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It is very similar to the control tower at Seething, Norfolk

http://www.seethingtower.org/

Tony

Eric Mc

122,843 posts

272 months

Saturday 5th December 2015
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This is the old tower at Farnborough



It was heavilly modified and extended over the years -



Ir was eventually demolished and this is the current tower -






100SRV

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249 months

Saturday 5th December 2015
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What are the numbers "25" for?