Volvo V70T5 Gearbox Issues
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I have a 52 plate V70T5 with 125k on the clock that has recently developed an issue. When decelerating at reasonable driving speed say 50 downwards all seems well until I start to gently accelerate again and there is a huge lag followed buy a huge jolt of power. I can hear the engine rev but it seems to momentarily be disengaged from the gearbox. Wondered if anyone has any thoughts?
First of all check the gearbox fluid level and make sure you do this with the engine fully up to temperature, put the selector lever through all positions pausing for two or three seconds in each mode with the engine running. Return it to Park then check the gearbox dipstick using the Hot side.
Also sniff check the fluid, does it smell burnt and what colour is it, if its black then a flush might be in order, if it needs topping up make sure you use the correct grade of oil for the box the AW55-50SN box uses JWS 3309 spec ATF anything other than 3309 oil will trash the gearbox - Mike
Also sniff check the fluid, does it smell burnt and what colour is it, if its black then a flush might be in order, if it needs topping up make sure you use the correct grade of oil for the box the AW55-50SN box uses JWS 3309 spec ATF anything other than 3309 oil will trash the gearbox - Mike
Sounds like the valve body is on the way out - very common problem at this sort of mileage. You can just replace the valve body which will probbaly cost about £1k but the main gearbox frequently plays up again soon afterwards so can be money down the drain.
There is also a long shot that it could be a solenoid cover which gives trouble.
If it is the valve body and/or main box a fluid change can help, but I guarentee the problem will come back and a fluid flush at this mileage can dislodge stuff and wreck the gearbox.
Realistically, you are probably looking at a gearbox rebuild in the near future as a long term fix.
There is also a long shot that it could be a solenoid cover which gives trouble.
If it is the valve body and/or main box a fluid change can help, but I guarentee the problem will come back and a fluid flush at this mileage can dislodge stuff and wreck the gearbox.
Realistically, you are probably looking at a gearbox rebuild in the near future as a long term fix.
Mangante said:
This is going to sound dim but I've looked in handbook, but where is the dipstick??
It is on the gearbox at the front of the car - look down to the left of the airbox and you should see a very small plastic dipstick. You might need to remove the air box and/or intake pipe to get to it easily.This may be worth a read:
http://www.v70xc.com/resources/how-to/pdf/b4-servo...
http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=622...
I don't have any 1st hand experience of these boxes (my V70 auto is a bit older than yours) but I have seen chat about the valve/solenoid cover on the forums.
http://www.v70xc.com/resources/how-to/pdf/b4-servo...
http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=622...
I don't have any 1st hand experience of these boxes (my V70 auto is a bit older than yours) but I have seen chat about the valve/solenoid cover on the forums.
Not a piston head here (any more) - but interesting - have exactly the same problem on an 02 V70T5 at circa only 90K miles - gearbox oil was was changed last year, problem persisted - now told by volvo only option is a new gear box - at £2k + fitting = so nearly £3K - not much less than the car is worth - I expect more from a fully serviced Volvo at only 90K miles - having had them in the family for over over 40 years.
btw - Auto gear box
Do I just leave it and drive it until the gearbox falls out/fails ? What are the chances/dangers of that? Very less inclined to replace it with another Volvo having read the threads on this issue which seems quite common.
Any other options?
any thoughts appreciated
k
btw - Auto gear box
Do I just leave it and drive it until the gearbox falls out/fails ? What are the chances/dangers of that? Very less inclined to replace it with another Volvo having read the threads on this issue which seems quite common.
Any other options?
any thoughts appreciated
k
Edited by KHILLBERY on Friday 18th March 19:31
Mangante said:
I have a 52 plate V70T5 with 125k on the clock that has recently developed an issue. When decelerating at reasonable driving speed say 50 downwards all seems well until I start to gently accelerate again and there is a huge lag followed buy a huge jolt of power. I can hear the engine rev but it seems to momentarily be disengaged from the gearbox. Wondered if anyone has any thoughts?
Had exactly the same problem with my Volvo, same year and mileage. Left it to 'jerk' me about for a year or so, but then the engine check light kept lighting up. Resorted to do something about it.Volvo told me a new gearbox was needed @ £3k +
Decided to have the G/Box rebuilt by a specialist in Aylesbury, who did a great job and I highly recommend them. Alternatively, I would have to scrap the car which I was loathed to do.
With luck should be good for another few thousand miles.
Tadek said:
Had exactly the same problem with my Volvo, same year and mileage. Left it to 'jerk' me about for a year or so, but then the engine check light kept lighting up. Resorted to do something about it.
Volvo told me a new gearbox was needed @ £3k +
Decided to have the G/Box rebuilt by a specialist in Aylesbury, who did a great job and I highly recommend them. Alternatively, I would have to scrap the car which I was loathed to do.
With luck should be good for another few thousand miles.
Do you have the name of the place in Aylesbury?Volvo told me a new gearbox was needed @ £3k +
Decided to have the G/Box rebuilt by a specialist in Aylesbury, who did a great job and I highly recommend them. Alternatively, I would have to scrap the car which I was loathed to do.
With luck should be good for another few thousand miles.
Yep, we've got the same issue on ours and we are in the same boat I fear. If you are in traffic and lift off and then accelerate, it goes for 2nd / 3rd and you get a lag followed by a massive shunt and it takes up drive.
It's a shame as, beside this, the car is really good.
Volvo's should do a LOT more miles than this on the boxes. I'm not so sure about this sealed for life thing. Interestingly Lexus (who use the same type of box) do change the fluid in them. Wonder why????
It's a shame as, beside this, the car is really good.
Volvo's should do a LOT more miles than this on the boxes. I'm not so sure about this sealed for life thing. Interestingly Lexus (who use the same type of box) do change the fluid in them. Wonder why????
From what I've been reading (and I've probably spent about 50-60 hours research on this around the forums, talking to dealer, indi etc.) these boxes at around 100k are anyones guess. You could do a flush and/or B4 servo and then be fine for another 100k. Or you could do all, some or none and it go bang tomorrow.
Just been to check the fluid on ours and the dipstick is coming out browny red, which is not good I fear. I might try another flush (last one done at 80k when I purchased the car) and it came out black as hell.
But I'm thinking it might be time to look for another car.
Real shame as it's a great old bus, but at 2+k for a box, the car's only probably worth 2.5-3k now
Just been to check the fluid on ours and the dipstick is coming out browny red, which is not good I fear. I might try another flush (last one done at 80k when I purchased the car) and it came out black as hell.
But I'm thinking it might be time to look for another car.
Real shame as it's a great old bus, but at 2+k for a box, the car's only probably worth 2.5-3k now
[quote=Skellen]From what I've been reading (and I've probably spent about 50-60 hours research on this around the forums, talking to dealer, indi etc.) these boxes at around 100k are anyones guess. You could do a flush and/or B4 servo and then be fine for another 100k. Or you could do all, some or none and it go bang tomorrow.
Just been to check the fluid on ours and the dipstick is coming out browny red, which is not good I fear. I might try another flush (last one done at 80k when I purchased the car) and it came out black as hell.
But I'm thinking it might be time to look for another car.
Real shame as it's a great old bus, but at 2+k for a box, the car's only probably worth 2.5-3k now
I think What I may do is a flush and see what that comes out like. As you said these are good old buses and its a shame that the box causes all sorts of issues. I will let you know what happens...good or bad!!
Just been to check the fluid on ours and the dipstick is coming out browny red, which is not good I fear. I might try another flush (last one done at 80k when I purchased the car) and it came out black as hell.
But I'm thinking it might be time to look for another car.
Real shame as it's a great old bus, but at 2+k for a box, the car's only probably worth 2.5-3k now
I think What I may do is a flush and see what that comes out like. As you said these are good old buses and its a shame that the box causes all sorts of issues. I will let you know what happens...good or bad!!
This is a very slight thread hijack.
I've got a 57 (PII) D5 auto/geartronic, which obviously now 4 years old and has done less than 60,000 miles and I have owned the car from new.
I've never had a problem with the gearbox (touch wood) but read a lot about having the gearbox flushed out and the oil replaced.
So my question is, should I? Would a local Volvo specialist know how to do this, without messing it up?
I've got a 57 (PII) D5 auto/geartronic, which obviously now 4 years old and has done less than 60,000 miles and I have owned the car from new.
I've never had a problem with the gearbox (touch wood) but read a lot about having the gearbox flushed out and the oil replaced.
So my question is, should I? Would a local Volvo specialist know how to do this, without messing it up?
I'm not expert on PII series that new, but from what I've read it can't do anything but help, especially at that age and mileage.
The garages can do it, but Volvo will charge you an arm and a leg and you'll have the "sealed for life" argument to overcome.
How about DIY? If you google or do a search on volvoforums.org.uk for "V70 gearbox Gibbons method" (named after the author / creator of the method) then it should pop up a very hand guide that someone posted.
If fact, just done the search....
http://www.volvoxc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=566...
Hope this helps.
The garages can do it, but Volvo will charge you an arm and a leg and you'll have the "sealed for life" argument to overcome.
How about DIY? If you google or do a search on volvoforums.org.uk for "V70 gearbox Gibbons method" (named after the author / creator of the method) then it should pop up a very hand guide that someone posted.
If fact, just done the search....
http://www.volvoxc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=566...
Hope this helps.
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