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Seems like a cracking second-hand buy. Remapping sees it somewhere in the region of 260bhp?! Questions...
- How terrible is the fuel economy? I'd appreciate something that could arbitrarily do 30mpg on a 80mph motorway lope.
- Any big/nasty services it needs?
- Anything to look out for?
Seems that private 60,000 milers start at £7k. I presume these engines are very strong and capable of 150k with good maintenance.
- How terrible is the fuel economy? I'd appreciate something that could arbitrarily do 30mpg on a 80mph motorway lope.
- Any big/nasty services it needs?
- Anything to look out for?
Seems that private 60,000 milers start at £7k. I presume these engines are very strong and capable of 150k with good maintenance.
LongLiveTazio said:
Seems like a cracking second-hand buy. Remapping sees it somewhere in the region of 260bhp?! Questions...
- How terrible is the fuel economy? I'd appreciate something that could arbitrarily do 30mpg on a 80mph motorway lope.
- Any big/nasty services it needs?
- Anything to look out for?
Seems that private 60,000 milers start at £7k. I presume these engines are very strong and capable of 150k with good maintenance.
I have a V70T5 auto which cost me next to nothing to buy and is superb.- How terrible is the fuel economy? I'd appreciate something that could arbitrarily do 30mpg on a 80mph motorway lope.
- Any big/nasty services it needs?
- Anything to look out for?
Seems that private 60,000 milers start at £7k. I presume these engines are very strong and capable of 150k with good maintenance.
Fuel economy- dreadful around town 20mpg; not bad on a run, 28ish mpg. With a remap this improves by at least 3mpg- I have a RICA304 map and it transformed the car from being quick to very quick with a couple of other mods. Expect around 30 extra ponies and shedloads more torque.
The volvo owners club forum or VPCUK forum will give you a good insight as to what to look out for.
My engine has just topped 150k and is still running the 1/4 mile in 14.6 seconds; not bad for a 11 year old bus! Regular oil changes (5k) are a must and make sure the cambelt is ok (every 5 years or 80k miles).
Hope this helps!
I have a m reg 850 t5 which has the same engine as the v70 up to a certain year,think 200 but dont hold me to that.
I get around 35mpg round town and I think it is to do with how I've got my boost control pipes and recirc pipe,I was getting max 20mpg round town when I had my dump valve on.
If the car is heavy on fuel,have a look at the vaccum pipes for splits/cracks and see if any have come off.
Manual boost controller can get you 260 bhp with no problems and if you use a 2 stage set up,or even if you can get the single stages adjuster in the car,you can turn boost up and down,you will notice heavy fuel consumption if you put your foot down hard but normal driving,I have not noticed a difference in mpg so my bleed valve will be going back on (I removed it to see if I could get more mpg).
I will also be removing my Induction kit as these increase fuel consumption.
A bleed valve or manual boost control (MBC) will get you in the same figures as a remap for not a lot of money and I would only consider a re map If I was looking to uprate con rods and go to 400+bhp.
Set a bleed valve or a MBC up right with your cars boost control valve and you wont have any problems,I think the ecu cuts out at 14psi boost to stop damage and it does that threw the boost control valve (I thing,I may be wrong though).
13 psi in these cars is very nice but you will need decent tyres as it will like to spin around 3000 revs.
As guy above says,they can be brought very cheap,this cars are good to way over 400.000 miles as long as you look after them.
I believe volvo change the cam belt at 70k miles (in the uk they do) and that is about the expensivest you can get on these cars,few hundred quid but 50 quid if your good with a spanner ;-)
Head gasket is another major thing as the head can be damaged and not hold pressure (made of alloy so deform easy) these can be replaced cheap enough as there is plenty of used ones about.
The expensivest of all would be the con rods/valve,if you run to much boost or your cam belt snaps and damages any of these,you well as just look at buying a used engine.
I would look for a T5 with between 100-250.000 miles and just make sure it starts and drives ok with no smoke from the exhaust,any blue smoke while flooring it (floor it for boost) will mean there is turbo problems,refurb kits can be brought cheap in the usa and around 50 quid in the uk and there easy enough to fit,for the price of 50 in the uk,you could buy a used turbo for 70-80 quid,choice is yours a simple replace the turbo or rebuild it your self and know it will last for another god knows how many miles.
Again,will be expensive if you get some one else to do the work,if your good with a spanner then you just pay for the refurb parts or used turbo,getting a shop to refurb will also cost a lot and to be honest they are fairly easy to rebuild.
Think thats about it,oh I would not look just for volvos with volvo history as it does not say what was carried out (in the uk any way) but 70k they change the cam belt in the uk which I think is the most major they do,all volvo history stamps could simply be a grease all round and top up on fluids which any garage or home mechanic can do,so dont pay over the odds for volvo history,a bit of advice from me too,if your no good with a spanner,dont get any work done at volvo as you will pay up to 5x what a normal garage charges,same goes for parts but some stuff like diagnostic,you have to use them,and it will make you sick how much they charge for plugging a little machine in and saying your bulb has gone!!
Buy one,there worth the money,think you said 6-7k,dont know where you are but if your in the uk,that is a lot and even with 60k on the clock its not good as most problems happen in the first 50-70k miles any way.
Good luck,dont worry about fuel consuption as you can play with bleed valves and MBC's as well as change the vaccum pipes to better ones which can sort it all out.
I get around 35mpg round town and I think it is to do with how I've got my boost control pipes and recirc pipe,I was getting max 20mpg round town when I had my dump valve on.
If the car is heavy on fuel,have a look at the vaccum pipes for splits/cracks and see if any have come off.
Manual boost controller can get you 260 bhp with no problems and if you use a 2 stage set up,or even if you can get the single stages adjuster in the car,you can turn boost up and down,you will notice heavy fuel consumption if you put your foot down hard but normal driving,I have not noticed a difference in mpg so my bleed valve will be going back on (I removed it to see if I could get more mpg).
I will also be removing my Induction kit as these increase fuel consumption.
A bleed valve or manual boost control (MBC) will get you in the same figures as a remap for not a lot of money and I would only consider a re map If I was looking to uprate con rods and go to 400+bhp.
Set a bleed valve or a MBC up right with your cars boost control valve and you wont have any problems,I think the ecu cuts out at 14psi boost to stop damage and it does that threw the boost control valve (I thing,I may be wrong though).
13 psi in these cars is very nice but you will need decent tyres as it will like to spin around 3000 revs.
As guy above says,they can be brought very cheap,this cars are good to way over 400.000 miles as long as you look after them.
I believe volvo change the cam belt at 70k miles (in the uk they do) and that is about the expensivest you can get on these cars,few hundred quid but 50 quid if your good with a spanner ;-)
Head gasket is another major thing as the head can be damaged and not hold pressure (made of alloy so deform easy) these can be replaced cheap enough as there is plenty of used ones about.
The expensivest of all would be the con rods/valve,if you run to much boost or your cam belt snaps and damages any of these,you well as just look at buying a used engine.
I would look for a T5 with between 100-250.000 miles and just make sure it starts and drives ok with no smoke from the exhaust,any blue smoke while flooring it (floor it for boost) will mean there is turbo problems,refurb kits can be brought cheap in the usa and around 50 quid in the uk and there easy enough to fit,for the price of 50 in the uk,you could buy a used turbo for 70-80 quid,choice is yours a simple replace the turbo or rebuild it your self and know it will last for another god knows how many miles.
Again,will be expensive if you get some one else to do the work,if your good with a spanner then you just pay for the refurb parts or used turbo,getting a shop to refurb will also cost a lot and to be honest they are fairly easy to rebuild.
Think thats about it,oh I would not look just for volvos with volvo history as it does not say what was carried out (in the uk any way) but 70k they change the cam belt in the uk which I think is the most major they do,all volvo history stamps could simply be a grease all round and top up on fluids which any garage or home mechanic can do,so dont pay over the odds for volvo history,a bit of advice from me too,if your no good with a spanner,dont get any work done at volvo as you will pay up to 5x what a normal garage charges,same goes for parts but some stuff like diagnostic,you have to use them,and it will make you sick how much they charge for plugging a little machine in and saying your bulb has gone!!
Buy one,there worth the money,think you said 6-7k,dont know where you are but if your in the uk,that is a lot and even with 60k on the clock its not good as most problems happen in the first 50-70k miles any way.
Good luck,dont worry about fuel consuption as you can play with bleed valves and MBC's as well as change the vaccum pipes to better ones which can sort it all out.
Just noticed,your thread starts with s40 T5,they ar T4s in the s40 and are different engines completely to the v70 and 850 which are T5s.
Think the T4 is a complete mitsubishi engine,it deffo aint a T5 volvo engine any way and there not 5cylinder 20v or 2.3 turbos,there 2.0 turbos and slower then the t5.
Think the T4 is a complete mitsubishi engine,it deffo aint a T5 volvo engine any way and there not 5cylinder 20v or 2.3 turbos,there 2.0 turbos and slower then the t5.
The current S40 T5 has a totally different 5 pot turbo engine to all those other earlier 850, S70/V70, C70 and S60/V70 P2 T5s and Rs.
The engine in this S40 along with the current V50, C30 and C70 T5s is the Volvo RNCT/B5254 T3/T7 engine designed specifically for these Focus platform based cars, there is not even a nut or bolt common to any other T5 engines.
The original poster's price target is about right and he will certainly buy a car to be relied on with its Volvo engine and M66 gearbox giving a long trouble free life in a very well resolved chassis. Not as nippy as its very close relative the Focus ST but a few additions of different springs and roll bars will get it close and there are good Swedish written software upgrades, Ferrita exhausts, reworked turbos etc that will get 280bhp plus if that is his bag.
Worth checking www.t5d5.org where most Volvo modders congregate these days and a site for the C30...www.c30world.com
Regards, Don.
The engine in this S40 along with the current V50, C30 and C70 T5s is the Volvo RNCT/B5254 T3/T7 engine designed specifically for these Focus platform based cars, there is not even a nut or bolt common to any other T5 engines.
The original poster's price target is about right and he will certainly buy a car to be relied on with its Volvo engine and M66 gearbox giving a long trouble free life in a very well resolved chassis. Not as nippy as its very close relative the Focus ST but a few additions of different springs and roll bars will get it close and there are good Swedish written software upgrades, Ferrita exhausts, reworked turbos etc that will get 280bhp plus if that is his bag.
Worth checking www.t5d5.org where most Volvo modders congregate these days and a site for the C30...www.c30world.com
Regards, Don.
RSF said:
Just noticed,your thread starts with s40 T5,they ar T4s in the s40 and are different engines completely to the v70 and 850 which are T5s.
Think the T4 is a complete mitsubishi engine,it deffo aint a T5 volvo engine any way and there not 5cylinder 20v or 2.3 turbos,there 2.0 turbos and slower then the t5.
the T4 lump is basically a volvo b5244/B523 et al. 5 cylinder lump from the 850 minus a cylinder and some internal changes to make it a 1.9 rather than a 2.0 Think the T4 is a complete mitsubishi engine,it deffo aint a T5 volvo engine any way and there not 5cylinder 20v or 2.3 turbos,there 2.0 turbos and slower then the t5.
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