Misfuelled D5

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Original Poster:

9,525 posts

43 months

Saturday 24th August
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Turn out the filling station down the road from us has petrol in the storage tanks rather than diesel and subsequently so have we in the D5

we have got through the diesel left in the tank and the petrol has made its way through with the car now refusing to start.

Is this game over or is it worth getting one of these fuel fixer guys out to flush it through?

E-bmw

9,969 posts

159 months

Saturday 24th August
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The petrol hasn't "made it's way through" they will have been 100% mixed during the whole time it has been in there.

What has happened is the petrol has now done it's damage to (likely) your fuel pumps/injectors.

You filled up & left the fuel in there beyond when you realised that.

You should have removed the fuel & flushed it completely as soon as you found it was there and you MIGHT have been lucky.

It is now VERY big bill time most likely as the damage is now done.

anyoldcardave

768 posts

74 months

Saturday 24th August
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Maybe not the end, watch this.

Surely the filling station are liable for costs ?

https://youtu.be/GL9-i9tcESU?feature=shared

interstellar

3,781 posts

153 months

Saturday 24th August
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E-bmw said:
The petrol hasn't "made it's way through" they will have been 100% mixed during the whole time it has been in there.

What has happened is the petrol has now done it's damage to (likely) your fuel pumps/injectors.

You filled up & left the fuel in there beyond when you realised that.

You should have removed the fuel & flushed it completely as soon as you found it was there and you MIGHT have been lucky.

It is now VERY big bill time most likely as the damage is now done.
Bit harsh on the op, it’s not even his fault!

Yahonza

2,123 posts

37 months

Saturday 24th August
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2 questions - when did you find out you had filled it with petrol?
Did you keep the receipt from the petrol station?

Get someone to have a look at it, although it is probably too late if you've driven it for a bit.

119

Original Poster:

9,525 posts

43 months

Saturday 24th August
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Thanks guys.

That’s the weird thing, if had about 120 miles in the tank And had to go on a trip soon after of around 40 miles.

Done a couple of small trips between then and today so it has been running ok, up until the point it would not start and the recovery guy came out and we discovered it had petrol in it!

Luckily I have the reciept which shows £70 of diesel with date and time.

I popped into the fuel station this evening and he went back though their cctv and my arrival tied in with the receipt details.

He has passed all the info on to his head office but they won’t be back until Tuesday so now have the car stuck on someone else’s drive!

Thing is, we need to get the car home one way or another, hence me wondering if the flush type places would be able to do it and get it running?


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E-bmw

9,969 posts

159 months

Saturday 24th August
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interstellar said:
E-bmw said:
The petrol hasn't "made it's way through" they will have been 100% mixed during the whole time it has been in there.

What has happened is the petrol has now done it's damage to (likely) your fuel pumps/injectors.

You filled up & left the fuel in there beyond when you realised that.

You should have removed the fuel & flushed it completely as soon as you found it was there and you MIGHT have been lucky.

It is now VERY big bill time most likely as the damage is now done.
Bit harsh on the op, it’s not even his fault!
Not his fault that it got in there but this "we have got through the diesel left in the tank and the petrol has made its way through with the car now refusing to start." made it sound like he knew & left it in there.

Now the OP has added "Done a couple of small trips between then and today so it has been running ok, up until the point it would not start and the recovery guy came out and we discovered it had petrol in it!" that contradicts this, and it seems I was hasty and I apologise.

Unfortunately that doesn't change the fact that flushing the tank & everything through is not going to help as the petrol & diesel were 100% mixed by the time he left the forecourt.

The reason it now won't start is the damage done to the fuel system by the different make up of petrol over diesel.

E-bmw

9,969 posts

159 months

Saturday 24th August
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anyoldcardave said:
Maybe not the end, watch this.

Surely the filling station are liable for costs ?

https://youtu.be/GL9-i9tcESU?feature=shared
I assume you didn't actually watch the video yourself then?

Two points:

Twice in the video he says that a more modern diesel wouldn't have fared so well.

The wrong fuel was barely in there for an hour and it wasn't e10 fuel.

All in all, no help to the OP.

Matt_E_Mulsion

1,713 posts

72 months

Sunday 25th August
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Has the garage actually stated that there has been some kind of mis-fuelling issue?

I find it difficult to believe that the car ran fine for a few journeys afterwards if it had had £70 worth of petrol put into it.

Without confirmation of a fuel station cock up, I'm going with that the car not starting is a coincidence and the diagnosis by the breakdown man is wrong.

119

Original Poster:

9,525 posts

43 months

Sunday 25th August
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Matt_E_Mulsion said:
Has the garage actually stated that there has been some kind of mis-fuelling issue?

I find it difficult to believe that the car ran fine for a few journeys afterwards if it had had £70 worth of petrol put into it.

Without confirmation of a fuel station cock up, I'm going with that the car not starting is a coincidence and the diagnosis by the breakdown man is wrong.
I have the receipt with diesel fuel on it and he has the cctv of me there at the time putting the fuel in that corresponds with the receipt.

The breakdown guy popped one of the fuel pipes off under the bonnet and it had petrol in it, as well as the filler neck smelling of petrol.

Anyway, got a fuel guy coming out this morning to flush it so I’ll see what that brings!

Gotta start somewhere!

Blue62

9,379 posts

159 months

Sunday 25th August
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I had similar some years ago when filling up at a Jet garage, my car was petrol and they’d mixed diesel into their storage tank. It took me six months to even get a response from the garage owner, trading standards were useless and in the end I gave up. I hope you have better luck, with the receipt and CCTV you should have them bang to rights.

Countdown

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203 months

Sunday 25th August
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Original Poster:

9,525 posts

43 months

Sunday 25th August
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The more I think about tor the more I am thinking it was/is a dodgy pump and not switching over to the fuel selected.

Don’t know really.

Anyway, last resort it turns out our car insurance covers misfuelling so that may be a route if no success today although I suspect there will be clauses in there somewhere!

Cheers




cliffords

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30 months

Sunday 25th August
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119

Original Poster:

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43 months

Sunday 25th August
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119

Original Poster:

9,525 posts

43 months

Sunday 25th August
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Hmmmm interesting.

Guy drained some fuel out and we stuck our nose in it and it doesn’t really smell like petrol at all
More a mix??

He put some in a cap and tried to ignite it but it wouldn’t flame up.

So he fired some cleaner in the air filer and it kinda ran but wouldn’t stay running although he had a code about a fuel rail sensor faulty.

Anyway, he is draining the fuel anyway and will refill with some diesel to see if it will fire up.

anyoldcardave

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74 months

Sunday 25th August
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stevemcs

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100 months

Sunday 25th August
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Drain it, fill it and get the fuel filter changed, i very much doubt there will be any damage.

119

Original Poster:

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43 months

Sunday 25th August
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Well i dunno guys really.

Kinda good news in a way i think.



I took it on the chin and said to the fuel guy to drain it.

He did that and put some 'known' diesel in it and it still wouldn't start which he really wasn't happy about.

He had a a diagnostic tool and plugged that in and it came up with a fuel sensor fault.

There are two sensors on those, one at each end of the rail.

He unplugged one, tried to start it - no joy, still the same fault showing, so unplugged the the other and it threw a different fault on top of the other.

Cleared that, tried to start it and threw the original fault again, so he basically said, 'i am not a Volvo guy but to me it is that sensor that is the issue not the fuel.'

rolleyes

So, he did what was asked and went above and beyond with his diagnostics, so now i have to call the Volvo Assistance again and hope i don't have the same guy that told me was a petrol issue and get them to recover it.









stevemcs

8,989 posts

100 months

Sunday 25th August
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Are you sure they have all the air out ?