Volvo and rust

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IAmTheWalrus

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1,049 posts

51 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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So I recently advised whilst looking for a Japanese car that they are more liable to rust as the Japanese don't salt their roads and as so don't protect the underside of the car so well and therefore are more likely to be rusting in a country that does salt the road.

My car appears to be holding undertrays and I can't see the metal work, I think I'll have a peak ASAP however does anyone know what the rust protection is like for a 2010 Volvo? I was considering buying some of the products out there to protect it better to avoid the usual things going rusty like brake pipes and such.

Thanks in advance.

sherman

13,831 posts

222 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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Volvos are built like tanks. A 2010 will not be corroding yet. I had an 07 c30 and the body work was still sound when I sold it last year and that with it living in Scotland all of its life.
The mazda rx8 I had before had several rusty body panels when I let it go. It even had a rust repair under warranty.

IAmTheWalrus

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51 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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sherman said:
Volvos are built like tanks. A 2010 will not be corroding yet. I had an 07 c30 and the body work was still sound when I sold it last year and that with it living in Scotland all of its life.
The mazda rx8 I had before had several rusty body panels when I let it go. It even had a rust repair under warranty.
Well that's good to know. However do you have any idea as to what protection if any is going to be in place?

norchi

355 posts

229 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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Any Volvo built after 2010 might need a very close inspection.... since around that date the Volvo car manufacturing business has been in the hands of a chinese owner.......

sherman

13,831 posts

222 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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norchi said:
Any Volvo built after 2010 might need a very close inspection.... since around that date the Volvo car manufacturing business has been in the hands of a chinese owner.......
Utter pish. You do know that volvo havent been owned by volvo for years. Ford owned them for ages before they sold them to the chinese. Most of the 2000's volvos are bodied fords.
The c30 is a coupe bodied ford focus for instance.

norchi

355 posts

229 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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Geely bought Volvo in 2010...... from Ford. All the smaller cars were at that time built on the older Focus platform, the mid range on an existing Volvo platform used extensively by Ford themselves... still is. Since then I believe it is correct to say that those old platforms were replaced by new ones shared with other Geely brands. The latest, ubiquitous, bought in, Austrian engineered 4 pot current engine has been troublesome......

IAmTheWalrus

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51 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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Well mines a s80 2.4 diesel 2010 is this good?

Davie

5,022 posts

222 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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IAmTheWalrus said:
Well mines a s80 2.4 diesel 2010 is this good?
Listen to Norchi, he's talking sense.

A 2010 S80 can and will corrode nicely, to what extent is an unknown as it very depends on where it's been with and how's it's been treated by the last 11 years worth of owners. Put it on a ramp and look, that's the only way you'll know.

As for the "tanks" waffle... behave, that's an outdated stereotype and they can and will rust and indeed rot. Though I mentioned that I'd sent numerous P2 V70's and S60's to meet their maker due to terminal rot and was set upon by the anoraks for talking rubbish. Frankly I think it's more an issue with deluded owners thinking they have cars that are magically rust resistant.

They aren't.

Check it.

sherman

13,831 posts

222 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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Davie said:
IAmTheWalrus said:
Well mines a s80 2.4 diesel 2010 is this good?
Listen to Norchi, he's talking sense.

A 2010 S80 can and will corrode nicely, to what extent is an unknown as it very depends on where it's been with and how's it's been treated by the last 11 years worth of owners. Put it on a ramp and look, that's the only way you'll know.

As for the "tanks" waffle... behave, that's an outdated stereotype and they can and will rust and indeed rot. Though I mentioned that I'd sent numerous P2 V70's and S60's to meet their maker due to terminal rot and was set upon by the anoraks for talking rubbish. Frankly I think it's more an issue with deluded owners thinking they have cars that are magically rust resistant.

They aren't.

Check it.
Buy cheap buy twice. You get what you pay for.
Like any car if you actually maintain it it will stay good for a long time.

Chrishum

1,413 posts

75 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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The rust that seems to kill off a lot of more modern cars is the parts you can’t see.

I can think of many instances where a clean bodied car had serious structural rot that a casual inspection would never spot. That’s as true of expensive and well built cars as it is of cheap sheds

IAmTheWalrus

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1,049 posts

51 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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Davie said:
Listen to Norchi, he's talking sense.

A 2010 S80 can and will corrode nicely, to what extent is an unknown as it very depends on where it's been with and how's it's been treated by the last 11 years worth of owners. Put it on a ramp and look, that's the only way you'll know.

As for the "tanks" waffle... behave, that's an outdated stereotype and they can and will rust and indeed rot. Though I mentioned that I'd sent numerous P2 V70's and S60's to meet their maker due to terminal rot and was set upon by the anoraks for talking rubbish. Frankly I think it's more an issue with deluded owners thinking they have cars that are magically rust resistant.

They aren't.

Check it.
Yes well all metal will rust, I have been reading about a product you can paint it with to help preserve it. My car has a lot of panels under it so will need to take that lot off.

Garett

1,638 posts

199 months

Saturday 11th December 2021
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Davie said:
IAmTheWalrus said:
Well mines a s80 2.4 diesel 2010 is this good?
Listen to Norchi, he's talking sense.

A 2010 S80 can and will corrode nicely, to what extent is an unknown as it very depends on where it's been with and how's it's been treated by the last 11 years worth of owners. Put it on a ramp and look, that's the only way you'll know.

As for the "tanks" waffle... behave, that's an outdated stereotype and they can and will rust and indeed rot. Though I mentioned that I'd sent numerous P2 V70's and S60's to meet their maker due to terminal rot and was set upon by the anoraks for talking rubbish. Frankly I think it's more an issue with deluded owners thinking they have cars that are magically rust resistant.

They aren't.

Check it.
The old P2s are usually pretty well protected from rust, I thought they were galvanised or had some kind of galvanised undercoat. I had a good poke underneath my 16 year old S60 on the ramps and it was incredibly clean for a 16 year old car, it'd done 200k miles and didn't get much attention over winter months. It even had the original exhaust which was is fine condition!

anonymous-user

61 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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Volvos don't really rust at all.

850R

233 posts

138 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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We brought a 2011 V70 R-Design D5 manual, was mint.... well we thought it was, on my back all seemed ok on inspection, some very mild surface rust but no issue.

After a month or so, after work and family commitments, got it up in the air to be given the shock of our lives, never seen corrosion so bad on a 10 year old car, box sections etc, too far gone to remedy so traded it out.

Devastated to be fair. I have a phone full of horrendous images of it!


Willber

575 posts

176 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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Isnt the P2 rust area the front strut towers? I have seen pictures of them with serious rust there but mine has none whatsoever. The underneath is incredibly clean for a 20 year old 155k car! It is still blue on the whole underneath (blue car) and no rust on the body any where.

850R

233 posts

138 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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Willber said:
Isnt the P2 rust area the front strut towers? I have seen pictures of them with serious rust there but mine has none whatsoever. The underneath is incredibly clean for a 20 year old 155k car! It is still blue on the whole underneath (blue car) and no rust on the body any where.
that is correct they can be an issue, sold our P2 V70 D5 Euro 3 manual earlier on in the year, 238k and sweet as a nut, no rust anywhere on it. should never have let it go really.

Our 26 year old 850R is also clean as a whistle underneath, sits outside and is used daily, remarkable cars

IAmTheWalrus

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Sunday 12th December 2021
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850R said:
We brought a 2011 V70 R-Design D5 manual, was mint.... well we thought it was, on my back all seemed ok on inspection, some very mild surface rust but no issue.

After a month or so, after work and family commitments, got it up in the air to be given the shock of our lives, never seen corrosion so bad on a 10 year old car, box sections etc, too far gone to remedy so traded it out.

Devastated to be fair. I have a phone full of horrendous images of it!
That's quite a shocking comparison against the posts on here saying their Volvos were fine..

norchi

355 posts

229 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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'volvo cars' is not the business that it was either under it original Volvo ownership, or more recently under Ford ownership. It is now a 100% chinese owned entity that pays to use the Volvo brand name on its products... slowly, slowly dominant component content is from the PR and what is worse has forced labour content.

You cannot associate the longevity of earlier 'volvo' branded cars with those currently being produced.

You only have to check the opinions of not only traditional brand afficionados but those who fell for the BS recently that current brand buyers did concerning some mythical parity with the traditional premium brands.

Davie

5,022 posts

222 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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Elatino1 said:
Volvos don't really rust at all.
You've either been very lucky or see the world through rose tints as sadly, they will rot nicely if left unchecked. Granted they're not notorious in a Lancia way, but most models can corrode and should be checked carefully.

850R

233 posts

138 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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IAmTheWalrus said:
That's quite a shocking comparison against the posts on here saying their Volvos were fine..
I have no idea on the history in terms of what it was used for, wasn’t a coastal car either, I’m amazed it had no advisories from the previous MOT that was done a month before my ownership. Left me and my family devastated as it was the long term keeper on the face of things.