V70 Phase 1-2 for 1500, optimistic?
Discussion
As title really, I'm looking at the mk1 and 2 V70 wagon and want a petrol, manual version. Not fussed what colour as long as it's not the magenta/burgundy colour.
Am I being optimistic looking at 1500 for one and if not, has anyone here got any experience of owning them or advice on what to look for please?
Am I being optimistic looking at 1500 for one and if not, has anyone here got any experience of owning them or advice on what to look for please?
Davie said:
Owned several of each in various guises and no it's not optimistic but you won't get a nice one unless you're a bit lucky. I'd also ask why? What it's for? I ask as a P1 and a P2 are very very different machines in both good and bad ways, depending on your stance and needs.
Thanks for the reply. Want something with good carrying capacity, solid, reliable and manual/petrol. Due to the inevitable creep of man maths i’ve even started looking at turbo ones like the 2.5t phase 2 but unsure if having a turbo would compromise reliability at all. It's such a broad subject, there is no right or wrong answer...
A P1 is more retro cool nowadays and much more simple to maintain but it's also old, can be rusty and finding a good one isn't easy.
A P2 is neither modern nor retro cool, most are sheds that can empty your bank balance like there's no tomorrow. They're great tools, nice places to be but can be hard work.
Don't be lured by the reliability bulls
t that fanbois sprout. They can and will break down and sometimes terminally. Even the fabled D5 has many many common issues and failure points. They can rot with the best of them too.
A turbo doesn't make it any more reliable or unreliable, previous ownership standards are more if a concern as many of these have been run on a budget and that rarely ends well.
If you want something basic, solid and cheap then I think I'd be looking for a tidy 2.4 N/A or 2.5T earlier V70 unless if course you can find a T5... and if you must have a P2, they're all pretty much the same reliability wise as far as the D5 / 2.5T etc go.
The two are like chalk and cheese to own, run and live with so I'd start by considering your needs etc, having a look at some and narrow the search field a bit.
A P1 is more retro cool nowadays and much more simple to maintain but it's also old, can be rusty and finding a good one isn't easy.
A P2 is neither modern nor retro cool, most are sheds that can empty your bank balance like there's no tomorrow. They're great tools, nice places to be but can be hard work.
Don't be lured by the reliability bulls
t that fanbois sprout. They can and will break down and sometimes terminally. Even the fabled D5 has many many common issues and failure points. They can rot with the best of them too. A turbo doesn't make it any more reliable or unreliable, previous ownership standards are more if a concern as many of these have been run on a budget and that rarely ends well.
If you want something basic, solid and cheap then I think I'd be looking for a tidy 2.4 N/A or 2.5T earlier V70 unless if course you can find a T5... and if you must have a P2, they're all pretty much the same reliability wise as far as the D5 / 2.5T etc go.
The two are like chalk and cheese to own, run and live with so I'd start by considering your needs etc, having a look at some and narrow the search field a bit.
Biased much Davie? Been bitten by a bad one?
I bought a 2001 V70 2.4 auto in 2008 for £1500. It had 139k on it. I still have it. 280k now. Sunroof only tilts now, and aircon doesn't work. Might just need a regas. Might be more expensive. Not likely to check.
Only ever had routine servicing and has no rust. Does well over 30mpg average on a run, but easily low 20s round town. Has moved house twice and can carry masses of stuff. Now retired to pub/tip/need a big car duties.
Absolutely love it, it's part of the family.
I bought a 2001 V70 2.4 auto in 2008 for £1500. It had 139k on it. I still have it. 280k now. Sunroof only tilts now, and aircon doesn't work. Might just need a regas. Might be more expensive. Not likely to check.
Only ever had routine servicing and has no rust. Does well over 30mpg average on a run, but easily low 20s round town. Has moved house twice and can carry masses of stuff. Now retired to pub/tip/need a big car duties.
Absolutely love it, it's part of the family.
I bought a 2002 2.4 170 SE auto with 153k in January, paid £1050, dirty and grubby but drove ok.
Black sapphire metallic with Oak leather, one heated seat doesn’t work and one mirror was goosed - sorted with a whole new unit in right colour for £20.
Put new tyres on and just had a new condenser & re gas.
It’s the ideal dog wagon and been brilliant for all the recent builders merchant/tip runs and moving stuff
Black sapphire metallic with Oak leather, one heated seat doesn’t work and one mirror was goosed - sorted with a whole new unit in right colour for £20.
Put new tyres on and just had a new condenser & re gas.
It’s the ideal dog wagon and been brilliant for all the recent builders merchant/tip runs and moving stuff
Daveb257 said:
I bought a 2002 2.4 170 SE auto with 153k in January, paid £1050, dirty and grubby but drove ok.
Black sapphire metallic with Oak leather, one heated seat doesn’t work and one mirror was goosed - sorted with a whole new unit in right colour for £20.
Put new tyres on and just had a new condenser & re gas.
It’s the ideal dog wagon and been brilliant for all the recent builders merchant/tip runs and moving stuff
They're just such useful cars.Black sapphire metallic with Oak leather, one heated seat doesn’t work and one mirror was goosed - sorted with a whole new unit in right colour for £20.
Put new tyres on and just had a new condenser & re gas.
It’s the ideal dog wagon and been brilliant for all the recent builders merchant/tip runs and moving stuff
Got this one for my brother as he had a mk1 B70 and it was used for everything, he kept it for years. It finally got an MOT bill which was a bit too much to justify so he let it go and has missed it ever since.
I think I'm more excited about him getting it than he is!
Tyre Smoke said:
Biased much Davie? Been bitten by a bad one?
I've had several of each model... P80, P2 and now have a P3 and the P2 cars have been the ones that gave the most bother. Don't get me wrong, I like the but they're of that era where they can be pretty complex and also run on a budget, thus can be harbouring a lot of issues that can manifest in to big bills. I'm not butt hurt over my time with them, far from it but I just don't really buy in to the whole "it'll run forever" ethos of many owners as ultimately they can be great and they can also be utterly hopeless, but that's cars in general. I think as a cheap tool for sub £2k they're excellent but I wouldn't be investing more in one, even an alleged minter as they're getting on a bit now.
I've not long since reacquired one of my old P80 V70's, a 1998 V70 T5 Auto that is in need of some TLC and what's become apparent is that sourcing parts is getting harder. My local breakers used to have them in regularly, now they've all but disappeared... a vicious circle but it's also made running one more of a challenge hence a as tool or a daily shed, I'd still buy a P2 over an earlier one but I'd hang out for the least abused / neglected one possible.
OK just got back with it. It's surprisingly straight and a really good colour. Interior is excellent apart from stitching in centre of driver seat needs redoing.
There's a small oil leak on the bottom of the engine (NS edge) which I'll have to investigate and the headlights are very cloudy, but everything works really well and it ate the miles up on the return journey brilliantly.
Oh and I'm surprised at how quick it is. Genuinely didn't expect that.
There's a small oil leak on the bottom of the engine (NS edge) which I'll have to investigate and the headlights are very cloudy, but everything works really well and it ate the miles up on the return journey brilliantly.
Oh and I'm surprised at how quick it is. Genuinely didn't expect that.
Looks good.
If it's a D5, you may have bagged the by grail that are the facelifted cars but with the older 163bhp which are generally seen as the ones to get especially with a manual box and in a non OAP colour combo.
The oil leak, could be pretty trivial... they're prone for leaky intercoolers but they're also probe for the crank seals failing which sees oil dripping out the bottom of the bell housing and it's a box off job to fix and has been the demise of many cars due to the costs. Bombproof.
Hope it serves you well.
If it's a D5, you may have bagged the by grail that are the facelifted cars but with the older 163bhp which are generally seen as the ones to get especially with a manual box and in a non OAP colour combo.
The oil leak, could be pretty trivial... they're prone for leaky intercoolers but they're also probe for the crank seals failing which sees oil dripping out the bottom of the bell housing and it's a box off job to fix and has been the demise of many cars due to the costs. Bombproof.
Hope it serves you well.
Davie said:
Looks good.
If it's a D5, you may have bagged the by grail that are the facelifted cars but with the older 163bhp which are generally seen as the ones to get especially with a manual box and in a non OAP colour combo.
The oil leak, could be pretty trivial... they're prone for leaky intercoolers but they're also probe for the crank seals failing which sees oil dripping out the bottom of the bell housing and it's a box off job to fix and has been the demise of many cars due to the costs. Bombproof.
Hope it serves you well.
Thank you it's a present for my brother, but hopefully I can grab the odd drive of it. If it's a D5, you may have bagged the by grail that are the facelifted cars but with the older 163bhp which are generally seen as the ones to get especially with a manual box and in a non OAP colour combo.
The oil leak, could be pretty trivial... they're prone for leaky intercoolers but they're also probe for the crank seals failing which sees oil dripping out the bottom of the bell housing and it's a box off job to fix and has been the demise of many cars due to the costs. Bombproof.
Hope it serves you well.
This one's the 2.5 petrol turbo one, is a D5 a diesel or an identifier for spec, model, etc?
Davie said:
Ahhh, apologies... I assumed it was a diesel. D5 being the 2.4 5 cylinder diesel lump they put in these too. But a 2.5T is actually a good shout, they seem pretty solid things and great value for money too.
No worries, i’ve honestly really come round to volvos in the last couple of years. They seem like a smart choice. Bought a P2 about 5 or 6 years ago. Paid £1100, although it was burgundy.
Took it from 220000 miles to 300k.
Zero issues apart from a few suspension bushes and the top engine mount.
It was immaculate underneath, literally. All the seam sealer and coatings looked the same as they did when they left the factory.
It did develop one small bubble on one of the wings but it looked like it had been repaired at some point in its life.
Quite possibly the best car I've owned. It would sit at 135 on the autobahn for an hour at a time with 280k+ on the clock. I'd have another in a heartbeat.
Call me a fanboy but that was my experience.
Edit. Mine had weeping rocker cover gaskets but it never got any worse or to the point it dropped on the floor. Just meant the engine bay looked grubby and was an advisory on a few MOTs. I got the impression I'd cause more issues than I'd solve by replacing them.
Took it from 220000 miles to 300k.
Zero issues apart from a few suspension bushes and the top engine mount.
It was immaculate underneath, literally. All the seam sealer and coatings looked the same as they did when they left the factory.
It did develop one small bubble on one of the wings but it looked like it had been repaired at some point in its life.
Quite possibly the best car I've owned. It would sit at 135 on the autobahn for an hour at a time with 280k+ on the clock. I'd have another in a heartbeat.
Call me a fanboy but that was my experience.
Edit. Mine had weeping rocker cover gaskets but it never got any worse or to the point it dropped on the floor. Just meant the engine bay looked grubby and was an advisory on a few MOTs. I got the impression I'd cause more issues than I'd solve by replacing them.
Edited by ChocolateFrog on Monday 5th July 20:35
ChocolateFrog said:
Bought a P2 about 5 or 6 years ago. Paid £1100, although it was burgundy.
Took it from 220000 miles to 300k.
Zero issues apart from a few suspension bushes and the top engine mount.
It was immaculate underneath, literally. All the seam sealer and coatings looked the same as they did when they left the factory.
It did develop one small bubble on one of the wings but it looked like it had been repaired at some point in its life.
Quite possibly the best car I've owned. It would sit at 135 on the autobahn for an hour at a time with 280k+ on the clock. I'd have another in a heartbeat.
Call me a fanboy but that was my experience.
Yeah i’m hearing those sort of stories a lot. The journey back when i picked it up felt relaxed and comfortable despite not hanging about. Was amazed how refreshed and fast i got back. Took it from 220000 miles to 300k.
Zero issues apart from a few suspension bushes and the top engine mount.
It was immaculate underneath, literally. All the seam sealer and coatings looked the same as they did when they left the factory.
It did develop one small bubble on one of the wings but it looked like it had been repaired at some point in its life.
Quite possibly the best car I've owned. It would sit at 135 on the autobahn for an hour at a time with 280k+ on the clock. I'd have another in a heartbeat.
Call me a fanboy but that was my experience.
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