2.4 n/a petrol engine

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entropy

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209 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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What's it like looking after this particular engine?

I seem to remember reading somewhere that parts for it is more expensive than the 2.5T.

kwk

562 posts

184 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Last year I owned 3 C70's, a 2.4T, 2.4 N/A and a T5. Out of the three, the N/A was the smoother and more reliable. With nearly 170k on the clock, I took it on a 3000 mile Euro trip and it didn't miss a beat. All for £500.

martinrpeachey

749 posts

151 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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There's really not many physical differences between the engines other than the N/A having less on it to go wrong smile

irish boy

3,627 posts

242 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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We have a duel fuel one of the guys runs in work….been pretty reliable 110k now. Needs a few revs to get going.

martinrpeachey

749 posts

151 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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The thing with the 2.4 N/A is in a car like the V70, it's working pretty hard to drag the 1.6 ton lump around. To that end, it'll use nearly as much fuel as the T5, the tax isn't that different, nor is the insurance so to sum it up, you'd be better off with the T5 smile

P.S. my 207k mile remapped ex plod V70 T5 returns around 37mpg on a 70mph run wink

morgrp

4,128 posts

204 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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I'm guessing the engine you are thinking of is known as the 170bhp "denso" engine and it was quite a short lived engine only made from 99 to 00 - the engine is essentially the same as the others (block and head) but many ancillary parts are different - it runs a denso MAF, different injectors and different ECU, different sensors etc - the engine itself performs very nicely indeed but the different ancillaries are far less reliable, harder to source and far more expensive to replace than the more common Bosch and Siemens parts - example Bosch MAF sensor for a T5 - £180ish, a denso MAF - circa £320 - they're not a pig of an engine but comparing to other volvo engines it's best avoided - volvo themselves were not convinced by it and this combined with low demand explains its short production run - best way to check 2.4 20v lumps is to look at the MAF and see what make it is - if it's a Bosch part you'll be fine

My advice is go for either a 2.0T (less powerful) or the 2.4 LPT

entropy

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5,565 posts

209 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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Ideally I'm after an S40 T5 in the £3k region but they're even more hard to come by in manual form. Missed a few when I was casually browsing the interweb.

I wouldn't say no to S60s but they're hefty and the S40 is more nimble.

Finlandia

7,803 posts

237 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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martinrpeachey said:
P.S. my 207k mile remapped ex plod V70 T5 returns around 37mpg on a 70mph run wink
That is a P2 car, or?

martinrpeachey

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151 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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Finlandia said:
That is a P2 car, or?
Yes, P2, 2003 T5 SE.


Finlandia

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237 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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I thought so, the only way to get my P1 T5 to return 37mpg is coasting downhill hehe


ETA on a P1 2.4 N/A there is very little difference in mpg and costs, and a huge difference in oomph. My 2.4 10v 850 (140hp) averaged less mpg than my P1 C70 T5, both auto.

Edited by Finlandia on Thursday 28th November 19:37

entropy

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Thursday 28th November 2013
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martinrpeachey said:
P.S. my 207k mile remapped ex plod V70 T5 returns around 37mpg on a 70mph run wink
Where did you get it done and how much did it cost?

martinrpeachey

749 posts

151 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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The remap? it's a Autotech map, £300 from HLM in bromsgrove (long drive for me but worth it). In all honesty, I was getting close to that MPG prior to the remap - I like to keep a healthy engine wherever I can.

My friend has a P1 T5 with 70K miles and gets close to my MPG but not quite.

smile

Edited by martinrpeachey on Thursday 28th November 22:51

morgrp

4,128 posts

204 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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Averaging 37mpg is quite something. I have a 2.3 T5 running the later spec ETM and coils and whilst it is definately better on the juice than the older 850 version (and it is in excellent mechanical condition) I can only average 33mpg on a run - is an auto mind, but on a run I doubt that really makes a difference

martinrpeachey

749 posts

151 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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morgrp said:
Averaging 37mpg is quite something. I have a 2.3 T5 running the later spec ETM and coils and whilst it is definately better on the juice than the older 850 version (and it is in excellent mechanical condition) I can only average 33mpg on a run - is an auto mind, but on a run I doubt that really makes a difference
Clean injectors make a massive difference (up to 8mpg, depending on circumstances) I also have the LK manual box which means 70mpg is about 2k rpm.(150mph in 4th too smile )

mnkiboy

4,409 posts

172 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Did a 300 mile round trip this weekend. The DIM was showing an average of 34.3mpg at the end, with an estimated range of around 530 miles. That's in a n/a 2.4 170bhp P2.

Haven't managed to do a full tank of mostly motorway driving yet (despite having the car for 11 months) so not sure whether it is actually capable of 500 miles on a single tank. I'm going up to Edinburgh and back early next year, so might get the chance then.

martinrpeachey

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151 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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mnkiboy said:
Did a 300 mile round trip this weekend. The DIM was showing an average of 34.3mpg at the end, with an estimated range of around 530 miles. That's in a n/a 2.4 170bhp P2.

Haven't managed to do a full tank of mostly motorway driving yet (despite having the car for 11 months) so not sure whether it is actually capable of 500 miles on a single tank. I'm going up to Edinburgh and back early next year, so might get the chance then.
I like that "miles remaining" function...

I leave poole with 360 miles in the tank, drive the 118 miles to walthamstow and see 340 miles left in the tank lol.

mnkiboy

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172 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Yep, filled tank up in the morning and it read 430 miles remaining. 50 miles later and i'm up to 510!

morgrp

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204 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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martinrpeachey said:
Clean injectors make a massive difference (up to 8mpg, depending on circumstances) I also have the LK manual box which means 70mpg is about 2k rpm.(150mph in 4th too smile )
Did them about 6 months ago! - I need to clean out the ETM on mine - hasn't been done for a year or two, keep putting it off as its a pig to get to under the inlet manifold and I'm also sticking a new set of plugs in as its developed a slight flat spot mid rev range - just need a spare day to lavish some attention on it!

martinrpeachey

749 posts

151 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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morgrp said:
Did them about 6 months ago! - I need to clean out the ETM on mine - hasn't been done for a year or two, keep putting it off as its a pig to get to under the inlet manifold and I'm also sticking a new set of plugs in as its developed a slight flat spot mid rev range - just need a spare day to lavish some attention on it!
Don't talk to me about ETMs... mine packed up yesterday morning frown

Finlandia

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237 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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martinrpeachey said:
Don't talk to me about ETMs... mine packed up yesterday morning frown
My P1, while very keen on running juice, does at least not suffer from ETM issues biggrin







It's got a few other issues going on though... frown