Wheel bearing type noise ?
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Got a new style 57 plate V70 D5.
2 problems with it at present , one has been diagnosed as being the a/c compressor bearings , expensive at £800 fitted , but hey.
The other noise sounds and feels like a wheel bearing well on its way.
Had it checked by the main dealer and they have stated it is not the wheel bearings and suggested it is nothing serious and they would leave as is ! Unfortunately I can't ignore this , something definitely isnt right.
I know this is wheel vicinity related as the noise and graunchy feel through the steering wheel adjust with wheel speed. It happens even when I coast in neutral so I think I have eliminated anything gearbox
Could it be a CV joint ?
I am at a loss as to what it could be ,what else is there ?
I suspected / discs rubbing on the guard but can see no trace
2 problems with it at present , one has been diagnosed as being the a/c compressor bearings , expensive at £800 fitted , but hey.
The other noise sounds and feels like a wheel bearing well on its way.
Had it checked by the main dealer and they have stated it is not the wheel bearings and suggested it is nothing serious and they would leave as is ! Unfortunately I can't ignore this , something definitely isnt right.
I know this is wheel vicinity related as the noise and graunchy feel through the steering wheel adjust with wheel speed. It happens even when I coast in neutral so I think I have eliminated anything gearbox
Could it be a CV joint ?
I am at a loss as to what it could be ,what else is there ?
I suspected / discs rubbing on the guard but can see no trace
blueg33 said:
My V70 (2002) needed a wheel bearing at 36k miles.
Thanks , I am still thinking it is a wheel bearing , can't see what else there is , it gets worse when cornering too.Really surprised at the main dealer comment about just ignoring it, but they are happy to relieve me of £800 for the a/c compressor which is considered an urgently needed repair
Busa mav said:
..... they are happy to relieve me of £800 for the a/c compressor which is considered an urgently needed repair
What are the symptoms? Today my car developed a noise coming from the area of the centre consul, sounding like a hammer drill being used on the other side of a thin wall, which disappeared when I turned the fan off.I've been using a main dealer for the first 4 years of my V70 ownership. I've had a couple of problems with the car in the last 6 months, non of which they either wanted to fix, or could even be bothered to check.
The reason I'm mentioning this, is the second issue I've had was a thrumming noise from what I initially thought was the near side rear and they said might be due to worn rear tyre. Which I changed, as it was the original Pirelli and nearly illegal anyway.
That didn't fix the problem, so I took it to a mate to look at, and after spending 5 mins with him in the car with me, and then up on the ramps, concluded it was the nearside front wheelbearing that was knackered. Once he changed it, problem solved!
Oh and he's much much cheaper, labour wise, than a main dealer.
The reason I'm mentioning this, is the second issue I've had was a thrumming noise from what I initially thought was the near side rear and they said might be due to worn rear tyre. Which I changed, as it was the original Pirelli and nearly illegal anyway.
That didn't fix the problem, so I took it to a mate to look at, and after spending 5 mins with him in the car with me, and then up on the ramps, concluded it was the nearside front wheelbearing that was knackered. Once he changed it, problem solved!
Oh and he's much much cheaper, labour wise, than a main dealer.
Busa mav said:
Thanks for that mondayo,
I must admit I cant see what else it can be .
Coasting in neutral there is no change.
I cant unfortunately kill the engine whilst coasting due to the smart ignition switch.
It is definitely wheel speed related though, and worse when cornering .
I'm no mechanic....but it sounds very similar to my bearing issue; especially as when I unloaded the nearside front wheel (turning left) the noise went down/got slightly better.I must admit I cant see what else it can be .
Coasting in neutral there is no change.
I cant unfortunately kill the engine whilst coasting due to the smart ignition switch.
It is definitely wheel speed related though, and worse when cornering .
Thanks.
The bearings have finally shown themselves , now what one is it , cant possibly be both
Just had good news from Volvo UK , they are chipping in £650+ towards the a/c compressor as there were problems with them , not bad a car nearly 5 years old .
So going to get both wheel bearings replaced and hopefully have done with it.
Not sure I would have got that refund through an Indy
The bearings have finally shown themselves , now what one is it , cant possibly be both
Just had good news from Volvo UK , they are chipping in £650+ towards the a/c compressor as there were problems with them , not bad a car nearly 5 years old .
So going to get both wheel bearings replaced and hopefully have done with it.
Not sure I would have got that refund through an Indy
Busa mav said:
mybrainhurts said:
How much did the wheel bearings cost you...?
Just over £600 for both at the main dealers.Hurts , but it drives like a new car again .
That is utterly bloody outrageous!
If you are in England somewhere, you could probably have driven up to me in Glasgow, stayed the night in a nice hotel here, had me do the bearings and still had change from your fuel costs, I kid you not.
There is no end to the ripoff mentality from the main dealers!
J
jith said:
Busa mav said:
mybrainhurts said:
How much did the wheel bearings cost you...?
Just over £600 for both at the main dealers.Hurts , but it drives like a new car again .
That is utterly bloody outrageous!
If you are in England somewhere, you could probably have driven up to me in Glasgow, stayed the night in a nice hotel here, had me do the bearings and still had change from your fuel costs, I kid you not.
There is no end to the ripoff mentality from the main dealers!
J
Dealer....£209.
One side, that is...you have to buy a hub.
I definitely wouldn't buy bearings or brake pads etc from eBay or the factors.
Main dealers price , per side is £174 plus the vat per side for the bearing.
If I hadn't been using a main dealer For the a/ c compressor I would have spunked near on £800.
Main dealer got me the refund from Volvo so I am still well in pocket over using even a back street garage with cheap dodgy bits.
Horses and courses , plus I get a free new courtesy car , happy days
Main dealers price , per side is £174 plus the vat per side for the bearing.
If I hadn't been using a main dealer For the a/ c compressor I would have spunked near on £800.
Main dealer got me the refund from Volvo so I am still well in pocket over using even a back street garage with cheap dodgy bits.
Horses and courses , plus I get a free new courtesy car , happy days
Busa mav said:
I definitely wouldn't buy bearings or brake pads etc from eBay or the factors.
Main dealers price , per side is £174 plus the vat per side for the bearing.
If I hadn't been using a main dealer For the a/ c compressor I would have spunked near on £800.
Main dealer got me the refund from Volvo so I am still well in pocket over using even a back street garage with cheap dodgy bits.
Horses and courses , plus I get a free new courtesy car , happy days
Listen old son, my experience has shown absolutely that the dodgy garages are the main dealers.Main dealers price , per side is £174 plus the vat per side for the bearing.
If I hadn't been using a main dealer For the a/ c compressor I would have spunked near on £800.
Main dealer got me the refund from Volvo so I am still well in pocket over using even a back street garage with cheap dodgy bits.
Horses and courses , plus I get a free new courtesy car , happy days
We fit replacement parts that are not sourced from the main dealers, but in many cases are of higher quality. Ask yourself why the hell your original "genuine" Volvo bearing and compressor failed in the first place at such a low mileage.
I could write a book on this: new vehicles with "known faults", hundreds of them! If these faults are known to the manufacturer why don't they recall them? Because they have a line up of customers quite happily being shafted and doing nothing about it.
A classic example is the rear bearing failure on the Mondeo. You cannot buy the bearing on its own, you have to buy the whole hub complete with ABS ring and sensor. Apart from the fact that this is a dreadful waste of resources, the Ford price for this is in excess of £200. To add insult to injury, the Jaguar X Type uses the same rear bearing but Jaguar charge even more! These regularly fail at 50K. I replace them with bearings made by Delphi in Europe. I haven't had one single failure of these. I charge £98 for this bearing.
Components are failing prematurely at ludicrously low mileages on very expensive cars, not just run of the mill. Genuine dealer components at eye watering prices that have "Made in China" stamped on them.
You also seem to be quite happy about the fact that the main dealer seemed incapable of diagnosing something as simple as a wheel bearing.
Don't let them pull the wool over your eyes!
J
jith said:
Listen old son, my experience has shown absolutely that the dodgy garages are the main dealers.
Plus other stuff...
Jith, out of interest and I'm just curious here what is your take on the fact that Main dealers do not make the parts they have to use, nor do they set their labour prices. It's all set by the manufacturer that they have a franchise of, so largely it is out of their hands. The only thing they can control is remaining a franchise for that manufacturer, but often these independant garages that take on the franchise have done so some 20, 30 or more years back, and would find it hard to go back to being a non-franchise business. To do so would probably cause the closure of the business and make people redundant. Their customers would just go to the next nearest franchised dealer instead.Plus other stuff...
You obviously have a hate thing for them, but I am sure there are just as many people who have a hatred and mistrust of businesses like yours instead. Swings and roundabouts really.
jith said:
Listen old son, You also seem to be quite happy about the fact that the main dealer seemed incapable of diagnosing something as simple as a wheel bearing.
Don't let them pull the wool over your eyes!
J
Listen old son ?Don't let them pull the wool over your eyes!
J
wtf , that is the sort of talk I would expect from a back street dealer me old sunshine
2 " specialist" back street garages failed to diagnose or sort either problem , despite me booking it in for a service AND to have the wheel bearings changed as that was my original diagnosis .
It was the main dealer that took the problem to task.
As for the original failures ? I put it down to the car having been parked up for 8 months , let alone the 90k otc.
Edit to add,
both back street dealers were happy to take £800 from me for the a/c compressor...
Main dealer foc , who's the mug now ?
Edited by Busa mav on Thursday 10th May 16:11
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