Classic V70 T5 Manual, How rare?

[Max M4X WW]

Hi all,

I found a V70 as per the above for my OH's Dad a couple of years ago, it was quite a clean car and he's let it go a bit since I cleaned it for him the day after he bought it..



I'd love to get my hands on the car at some point, as I also think its quite rare. Can only find 3 for sale nationally on AT/eBay?

Problem is, it needs a new door (rust, poor repair?), probably turbo, clutch/release bearing, engine mounts, probably suspension parts, exhaust, a good clean and who knows what else! I know the car burns a fair bit of oil - is this likely to be the turbo oil seals after 140k miles?

So how rare are they and any ideas on a rough cost for the above (engine related) jobs from an indy?

Any info welcomed!

Cheers, Max

[Ecurie Ecosse]

Great car!

From the headlights back these are the same as the 850 T5.

[Max M4X WW]

I think there are more differences than that, the whole interior for a start. They also have an extra 15bhp.

[Ecurie Ecosse]

You're right - different turbo, different injectors, different dash.

Check out T5D5 or VPCUK for more info.

[Max M4X WW]

Ecurie Ecosse said:

You're right - different turbo, different injectors, different dash.

So this is where the extra power comes from, is it basically an 850R/T-5R engine?

[Ecurie Ecosse]

Max M4X WW said:

So this is where the extra power comes from, is it basically an 850R/T-5R engine?

It is, and what an engine

Different ECU too IIRC.

[morgrp]

It doesn't have a different turbo - its the same engine and turbo from an 850 t5 (with a Mitsubishi td04 turbocharger) the reason it produces 240bhp is because it runs the t5-r engine management system. People often confuse The t5-r with the 850R. The limited run t5-r had a standard t5 engine with a remapped engine management system that allowed the turbo to over boost briefly giving an extra 15bhp. The non-limited edition 850R model featured a larger turbo(td05) a viscous coupling in the diff and a few other upgrades to give 250bhp - these cars had manual transmissions - the auto version had a standard td04 turbo like the t5-r.

Back to the v70 - I'm currently running a 98 T5 in metallic blue and it does appear to be a rare car - I haven't seen another for a long long time. Interestingly on the early models of the v70 the t5 is as quick as the V70R - both run the same engine with identical 240bhp power outputs - only the later R models featured more bhp than the t5

[morgrp]

Info on the repairs - suspension wear is common - front bushes and drop links - quite easy to replace - drop links are certainly something you could tackle yourself.
The clutch is very pricey to sort and a lot of work. they do run dual mass flywheels on the v70's and they can mega pricey to replace. They will squawk when taking up drive especially when the plates are stone cold - this is perfectly normal.

Turbos are very robust and will only fail if abused. Check the oil feed o-ring common fault and causes leaking. Also check the Pcv or breather system - common for them to block when run on crap oil -
Exhausts have a common fault where the flange joining the the catalyser to the exhaust is clamped gets loose and starts to blow/rattle - occasionally needs welding if bad but often just needs the exhsudt repositioned and the clamp tightening

if you're interested I will be selling mine in a couple of months or so when Mrs Morgrp gets her company car. Mines higher mileage (165k) but mechanically fit - pm me if you're interested - it not exactly a minter body wise but is rust free and will be going pretty cheap. It's metallic blue with charcoal leather

[Ecurie Ecosse]

I thought the V70 ran the 16T version of the turbo, and the 850 ran the 15G?

[Swedish Nemesis]

The engine in the 1997/1998 S/V70 T5 was the same revised stronger and updated engine type that went into the previous 850R manual. The revised engine had stronger con-rods. The updated S70/V70 T5 engine was 240 bhp and had a 16T turbo (the 225 bhp T-5 engine had a 15G turbo and the manual 850R had a 16T). The manual 850R and S70/V70R had a viscous coupling LSD, however the automatics did not. The manual 1997/1998 S70/V70Rs had an 18T turbo and the automatics a 16T. The 1997/1998 S70/V70 manual Rs were 250 BHP and the automatics were 240 BHP.

Edited by Swedish Nemesis on Tuesday 27th December 09:41

[Max M4X WW]

Thanks for the replies, The main thing with the clutch is the rattle at idle until you press the clutch pedal - I presume this is the release bearing.

What's the next step for an uprated clutch? Or is a factory item good enough for the sort of power a remap would give?

[Stedman]

Max M4X WW said:

Thanks for the replies, The main thing with the clutch is the rattle at idle until you press the clutch pedal - I presume this is the release bearing.

What's the next step for an uprated clutch? Or is a factory item good enough for the sort of power a remap would give?

Factory clutch is fine.