2005 onwards V70 D5 - what to look for?
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I've got a 57 plate one and think it's a very good car....pretty much perfect for what I need.
You should be aware that the turning circle is pretty poor on them. And that they're ok economy wise, but the slightly older cars (someone more informed will say which) are more economical.
Obviously a manual will be more economical than an auto, but mine is auto and very comfortable and relaxing to drive.
Other than that, they've big heavy cars, so will wear suspension parts out from time to time. But they're very comfortable, quick enough for most situations and have loads of space inside.
You should be aware that the turning circle is pretty poor on them. And that they're ok economy wise, but the slightly older cars (someone more informed will say which) are more economical.
Obviously a manual will be more economical than an auto, but mine is auto and very comfortable and relaxing to drive.
Other than that, they've big heavy cars, so will wear suspension parts out from time to time. But they're very comfortable, quick enough for most situations and have loads of space inside.
I've read the turning circle isn't a strong point - not too worried about that aspect.
We're after a car to soak up the 20k+ miles we do per year, will fit a 4, 6 and 10 year old and will be comfortable for trips around the country.
I do mostly motorway miles - 300+ a week - so is my reckoning of 35-40mpg realistic?
Manual or auto isn't going to factor into the decision (unless there is good reason to avoid one or the other).
Cheers
We're after a car to soak up the 20k+ miles we do per year, will fit a 4, 6 and 10 year old and will be comfortable for trips around the country.
I do mostly motorway miles - 300+ a week - so is my reckoning of 35-40mpg realistic?
Manual or auto isn't going to factor into the decision (unless there is good reason to avoid one or the other).
Cheers
I have a 56 plate V70 D5 SE Manual that I've had since new new and has done 63k miles.
Mine also has been a very good car and I'm also very happy with it.
I've only had a handful of issues with mine and all have been minor. Things I've had are:
- Intercooler to turbo air hose split causing intermittant limp mode, common problem cheap fix
- Handbrake shoes dissintegrated causing grinding noises, another common problem obvilously also an easy fix unless you ignore it in which case it can damage the hub casting which is £££.
- Needed new track rods at last MOT
- Rear disks corrode very fast - mine have been changed once and are looking marginal again.
- Front tyres don't last much more than 10k even with only moderately spirited driving.
- 17 inch alloys easily kerbed, I've scraped all 4 of mine.
Things I've read about but haven't affected mine yet are:
- injector's needing replacing/refurbing at ~100k indicated by poor cold starting, although I believe this mostly affects 163bhp cars in a known VIN range.
- intercoolers leaking at around 100k
- dual mass flywheels failing at 60k onwards which are expensive to repalce - indicated by an intermittant vibration at speed at ~2200 rpm.
Make sure your 3 kids are happy on the back - for a big car there's not a lot of space in the back.
I use mine mostly for longer journeys (my wife's Mini does the school runs and Sainsburys trips) 75mph indicated cruise gives me 41mpg, 85mph indicated cruise gives me 38mpg.
Mine also has been a very good car and I'm also very happy with it.
I've only had a handful of issues with mine and all have been minor. Things I've had are:
- Intercooler to turbo air hose split causing intermittant limp mode, common problem cheap fix
- Handbrake shoes dissintegrated causing grinding noises, another common problem obvilously also an easy fix unless you ignore it in which case it can damage the hub casting which is £££.
- Needed new track rods at last MOT
- Rear disks corrode very fast - mine have been changed once and are looking marginal again.
- Front tyres don't last much more than 10k even with only moderately spirited driving.
- 17 inch alloys easily kerbed, I've scraped all 4 of mine.
Things I've read about but haven't affected mine yet are:
- injector's needing replacing/refurbing at ~100k indicated by poor cold starting, although I believe this mostly affects 163bhp cars in a known VIN range.
- intercoolers leaking at around 100k
- dual mass flywheels failing at 60k onwards which are expensive to repalce - indicated by an intermittant vibration at speed at ~2200 rpm.
Make sure your 3 kids are happy on the back - for a big car there's not a lot of space in the back.
I use mine mostly for longer journeys (my wife's Mini does the school runs and Sainsburys trips) 75mph indicated cruise gives me 41mpg, 85mph indicated cruise gives me 38mpg.
Edited by Seight_Returns on Wednesday 5th October 17:18
Seight_Returns said:
Helpful stuff
I'd read they were a little tightter in the back than expected - though coming from a 3-dr Focus I'm not sure how much of a problem that will be.Edited by Seight_Returns on Wednesday 5th October 17:18
Read a lot of stuff on the web about potential problems and DMFs are a curse of modern diesels full stop.
Saying that, the OH very much likes the new shape S80 we came across when browsing V70s...
With 2005, you are looking at "bang on" the changeover year from EuIII to EuIV. Everyone knows that I think these were the best package i.e 163bhp engine but with newer fresher face. With a gentle right foot you should see 50+mpg in manual EuIII and certainly mid-40's with your type of use. If you go for the EuIV, my guess is 40+mpg...as a rule my experience is that the EuIV returns ~8-10mpg less than the EuIII (in manual variants). If you decide to go with EuIV you need to be aware that there is a 2.4D (163bhp) and D5(185bhp) and they look identical!
Nothing generally goes wrong in a big way if car serviced properly. Ensure front end geometry is correctly set up (easy job) to prevent quick wear (tyres, bushes, etc). Intercoolers do not generally let go but are more prone with "chipped" cars - however, lots of people have positive views of uprating the 163 EuIII.
Kids will love the interior and whilst ecoboxes may(?) have more rear room, I know of a trio who loved the V70 whilst younger. ISOFIX may be a feature that you consider. A great long distance cruiser with their seats and creature comforts.
Fine of 17" wheels but they crash and are harsh on anything bigger (the Sport variant looks good but try it fully laden). You are already aware of the poor turning circle. You may want to consider a metal dog guard (fantastic safety feature when on a fully loaded trip with the family).
The S80 is just such a good VFM car as they compete in the German mid/large barge class and get crucified. Once in while I get tempted by the D5 205hp in black
Nothing generally goes wrong in a big way if car serviced properly. Ensure front end geometry is correctly set up (easy job) to prevent quick wear (tyres, bushes, etc). Intercoolers do not generally let go but are more prone with "chipped" cars - however, lots of people have positive views of uprating the 163 EuIII.
Kids will love the interior and whilst ecoboxes may(?) have more rear room, I know of a trio who loved the V70 whilst younger. ISOFIX may be a feature that you consider. A great long distance cruiser with their seats and creature comforts.
Fine of 17" wheels but they crash and are harsh on anything bigger (the Sport variant looks good but try it fully laden). You are already aware of the poor turning circle. You may want to consider a metal dog guard (fantastic safety feature when on a fully loaded trip with the family).
The S80 is just such a good VFM car as they compete in the German mid/large barge class and get crucified. Once in while I get tempted by the D5 205hp in black
Edited by T5R+ on Sunday 23 October 10:08
T5R+ said:
With 2005, you are looking at "bang on" the changeover year from EuIII to EuIV....
Cheers for that. We've had a slight rethink in budget and have spent the weekend pondering this one, albeit a pre-facelift:Edited by T5R+ on Sunday 23 October 10:08
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...
Any thoughts?
That seems like a nice car.
(Something is bugging me over 2001-2 cars and injectors. Hopefully one of the PH crew will be along shortly to confirm why?)
You have at lot of choice at the £5K mark - one I simply picked at random....
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...
If looking at around 100k (D5's take this in their stride) ensure the cam belt/tensionsers have been completed or you will soon pick up the bill.
(Something is bugging me over 2001-2 cars and injectors. Hopefully one of the PH crew will be along shortly to confirm why?)
You have at lot of choice at the £5K mark - one I simply picked at random....
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...
If looking at around 100k (D5's take this in their stride) ensure the cam belt/tensionsers have been completed or you will soon pick up the bill.
What are the auto gearboxes like at 100K plus? I've heard stuff about them being sealed for life, but then heard people say you should change the gearbox oil?!
A friend of mine bought one of these last year and was pretty impressed with it. Nippy enough for most occasions and he's getting much better fuel economy than me (his is manual mind)...think this issue was covered by someone else, further up in this thread.
The lifetime mpg on mine is around the 39mpg mark....so you should easily manage that if you stay around the motorway speed limit, as I do a fair bit of town driving in mine, as well as reasonable amount of motorway driving.
A friend of mine bought one of these last year and was pretty impressed with it. Nippy enough for most occasions and he's getting much better fuel economy than me (his is manual mind)...think this issue was covered by someone else, further up in this thread.
The lifetime mpg on mine is around the 39mpg mark....so you should easily manage that if you stay around the motorway speed limit, as I do a fair bit of town driving in mine, as well as reasonable amount of motorway driving.
mondayo said:
What are the auto gearboxes like at 100K plus?
Knackered, quite often. The early models (2001-2003) tend to start to play up about 120k. The later ones (2004 model on i.e. 53-plate on with the black dashboard and silver rings on the dials) seem a bit better but I've come across 2005 models with the auto gearbox on the way out at 110k.Fluid changes can help if you do it at lower mileage but once they start to go (it is usually the valve body) only a rebuild will fix them.
T5R+ said:
That seems like a nice car.
(Something is bugging me over 2001-2 cars and injectors. Hopefully one of the PH crew will be along shortly to confirm why?)
You have at lot of choice at the £5K mark - one I simply picked at random....
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...
If looking at around 100k (D5's take this in their stride) ensure the cam belt/tensionsers have been completed or you will soon pick up the bill.
Your not wrong - I think 01/02 vintage was the worst years for injector and gearbox issues with the autos. Not saying it will happen but my 02 S60 has had two injectors in the past.(Something is bugging me over 2001-2 cars and injectors. Hopefully one of the PH crew will be along shortly to confirm why?)
You have at lot of choice at the £5K mark - one I simply picked at random....
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...
If looking at around 100k (D5's take this in their stride) ensure the cam belt/tensionsers have been completed or you will soon pick up the bill.
I had the euro IV 184 D5 V70, it was 06 and it had new injectors and a new auto box under warranty at 70k - the box starting failing again towards the end of my ownership!
However that V70 was the best thing since sliced bread and if it wasnt for the damn gearbox I would have it now. It was the 184 but it shifted, and I mean moved in a gather pace kind of way that meant many friends were quite surprised (probably remapped). The kids loved it, it felt secure, composed and most importantly did everything well.
Ok the turning circle is rubbish and the rear space isnt brilliant, but its the best all round car I have owned with kids.
Unfortunately it goes downhill from there and the later 2010 V70 I replaced it with lasted 4 months with me - the S80 is a cracking buy too, keeping my eye on them for the future!
halo34 said:
Your not wrong - I think 01/02 vintage was the worst years for injector and gearbox issues with the autos. Not saying it will happen but my 02 S60 has had two injectors in the past.
I had the euro IV 184 D5 V70, it was 06 and it had new injectors and a new auto box under warranty at 70k - the box starting failing again towards the end of my ownership!
However that V70 was the best thing since sliced bread and if it wasnt for the damn gearbox I would have it now. It was the 184 but it shifted, and I mean moved in a gather pace kind of way that meant many friends were quite surprised (probably remapped). The kids loved it, it felt secure, composed and most importantly did everything well.
Ok the turning circle is rubbish and the rear space isnt brilliant, but its the best all round car I have owned with kids.
Unfortunately it goes downhill from there and the later 2010 V70 I replaced it with lasted 4 months with me - the S80 is a cracking buy too, keeping my eye on them for the future!
Im thinking of getting hold of 2010 V70 D5. What problems did you have with it? Are they not as reliable as i think? Always thought they lookd very reliable. Am looking at one with only 36000 miles on it.I had the euro IV 184 D5 V70, it was 06 and it had new injectors and a new auto box under warranty at 70k - the box starting failing again towards the end of my ownership!
However that V70 was the best thing since sliced bread and if it wasnt for the damn gearbox I would have it now. It was the 184 but it shifted, and I mean moved in a gather pace kind of way that meant many friends were quite surprised (probably remapped). The kids loved it, it felt secure, composed and most importantly did everything well.
Ok the turning circle is rubbish and the rear space isnt brilliant, but its the best all round car I have owned with kids.
Unfortunately it goes downhill from there and the later 2010 V70 I replaced it with lasted 4 months with me - the S80 is a cracking buy too, keeping my eye on them for the future!
Cheers
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