V70 D5 fuel consumption
Discussion
Hi guys, my first time in here so sorry if this is stuff of legend and has been widely discussed!
My father recently purchased a 2008 V70 with the D5 engine and geartronic 'box, which has official MPG figures of around 37-38 combined, I believe... After filling up twice since buying it and calculating the tank to tank figures, the car is performing at nowhere near the expected rate, with a tankful of mixed driving returning 28MPG and a separate tankful on one single long motorway run returning 34MPG. Is this normal? Are the official consumption figures a load of crap? We picked the D5 over the 163 because of the better consumption, and it has turned out to be terrible anyway!
We have moved from the classic VAG 1.9TDI which averaged around 45-48, and we were hoping for around 40 from the Volvo. The car is still in warranty so if there is an issue with our car then we can ask them to look at it.
The car is beautiful otherwise though, very well built and perfectly suited to the auto.
Any advice would be appreciated!
My father recently purchased a 2008 V70 with the D5 engine and geartronic 'box, which has official MPG figures of around 37-38 combined, I believe... After filling up twice since buying it and calculating the tank to tank figures, the car is performing at nowhere near the expected rate, with a tankful of mixed driving returning 28MPG and a separate tankful on one single long motorway run returning 34MPG. Is this normal? Are the official consumption figures a load of crap? We picked the D5 over the 163 because of the better consumption, and it has turned out to be terrible anyway!
We have moved from the classic VAG 1.9TDI which averaged around 45-48, and we were hoping for around 40 from the Volvo. The car is still in warranty so if there is an issue with our car then we can ask them to look at it.
The car is beautiful otherwise though, very well built and perfectly suited to the auto.
Any advice would be appreciated!
Sounds a bit thirsty - but not outrageous.
Is the 2008 MY the 205 or 185bhp D5 ?
My 2007 MY 185 manual V70 D5 does about 35-36 mpg around town, 38-39 on a mostly motorway journey with my normal driving style. I can get it upto 41 on a mostly motorway run with a self imposed 75mph limit and the smoothest driving style I can adopt without becoming so bored that I feel compelled to top myself - all according to the notoriously optimistic OBC.
Knock off a bit for the lies the OBC tells, and a bit more for the Auto and your numbers aren't a million miles away from mine.
The 185 D5s are much less economical than the 163s (blame the EuroIV complicance stuff, mostly the DPF), the 205s are supposed to be thirstier than the 185s.
Is the 2008 MY the 205 or 185bhp D5 ?
My 2007 MY 185 manual V70 D5 does about 35-36 mpg around town, 38-39 on a mostly motorway journey with my normal driving style. I can get it upto 41 on a mostly motorway run with a self imposed 75mph limit and the smoothest driving style I can adopt without becoming so bored that I feel compelled to top myself - all according to the notoriously optimistic OBC.
Knock off a bit for the lies the OBC tells, and a bit more for the Auto and your numbers aren't a million miles away from mine.
The 185 D5s are much less economical than the 163s (blame the EuroIV complicance stuff, mostly the DPF), the 205s are supposed to be thirstier than the 185s.
Edited by Seight_Returns on Friday 19th August 11:36
My experience with manual gearbox:
V70 D5 Generation 2 163bhp = high 40's and mid 60's on long runs at 60mph
V70 D5 Generation 2 185bhp = low 40's and high 50's on long run at 60mph
V70 D5 Generation 3 185bhp = high 30's struggle much over 50mpg at 60mph
The V70 Generation 3, seems to be a thirsty car? However, your specific vehicle (irrespective if G2 or G3) seems "special"
Suggest that you have it checked over. When was in the inline fuel filter last changed - careful if self service, as it is plastic housed and can be fragile. Also, ensure that you run the correct tyre pressures - seems to make a notable difference.
Off Topic..........I commute in a S60 2.4D (163bhp, 6-speed manual) and am shocked at the "drink-rate" when comparing 60mph versus 80mph motorway cruising speeds.
Sceptical over the "official" fuel figures, as very few cars seem capable of delivering such numbers in real life scenarios.
V70 D5 Generation 2 163bhp = high 40's and mid 60's on long runs at 60mph
V70 D5 Generation 2 185bhp = low 40's and high 50's on long run at 60mph
V70 D5 Generation 3 185bhp = high 30's struggle much over 50mpg at 60mph
The V70 Generation 3, seems to be a thirsty car? However, your specific vehicle (irrespective if G2 or G3) seems "special"
Suggest that you have it checked over. When was in the inline fuel filter last changed - careful if self service, as it is plastic housed and can be fragile. Also, ensure that you run the correct tyre pressures - seems to make a notable difference.
Off Topic..........I commute in a S60 2.4D (163bhp, 6-speed manual) and am shocked at the "drink-rate" when comparing 60mph versus 80mph motorway cruising speeds.
Sceptical over the "official" fuel figures, as very few cars seem capable of delivering such numbers in real life scenarios.
It is the 185 and not the 205. Thanks for the advice guys, will pass it on. I think it is going to be mentioned when we take the car back to the dealer to have a couple of small things sorted out. I suppose I should also mention that the figures are when the car is being driven as gently as possible, no hard acceleration or high speed, cruise control set at 70 on the motorway.
T5R+ said:
My experience with manual gearbox:
V70 D5 Generation 2 163bhp = high 40's and mid 60's on long runs at 60mph
V70 D5 Generation 2 185bhp = low 40's and high 50's on long run at 60mph
V70 D5 Generation 3 185bhp = high 30's struggle much over 50mpg at 60mph
The V70 Generation 3, seems to be a thirsty car? However, your specific vehicle (irrespective if G2 or G3) seems "special"
Suggest that you have it checked over. When was in the inline fuel filter last changed - careful if self service, as it is plastic housed and can be fragile. Also, ensure that you run the correct tyre pressures - seems to make a notable difference.
Off Topic..........I commute in a S60 2.4D (163bhp, 6-speed manual) and am shocked at the "drink-rate" when comparing 60mph versus 80mph motorway cruising speeds.
Sceptical over the "official" fuel figures, as very few cars seem capable of delivering such numbers in real life scenarios.
+1V70 D5 Generation 2 163bhp = high 40's and mid 60's on long runs at 60mph
V70 D5 Generation 2 185bhp = low 40's and high 50's on long run at 60mph
V70 D5 Generation 3 185bhp = high 30's struggle much over 50mpg at 60mph
The V70 Generation 3, seems to be a thirsty car? However, your specific vehicle (irrespective if G2 or G3) seems "special"
Suggest that you have it checked over. When was in the inline fuel filter last changed - careful if self service, as it is plastic housed and can be fragile. Also, ensure that you run the correct tyre pressures - seems to make a notable difference.
Off Topic..........I commute in a S60 2.4D (163bhp, 6-speed manual) and am shocked at the "drink-rate" when comparing 60mph versus 80mph motorway cruising speeds.
Sceptical over the "official" fuel figures, as very few cars seem capable of delivering such numbers in real life scenarios.
these figures look about right to me too
OP you mention that it is still in Warranty...I'd get it looked at ASAP
Edited by y2blade on Friday 19th August 22:18
Seight_Returns said:
Sounds a bit thirsty - but not outrageous.
Is the 2008 MY the 205 or 185bhp D5 ?
My 2007 MY 185 manual V70 D5 does about 35-36 mpg around town, 38-39 on a mostly motorway journey with my normal driving style. I can get it upto 41 on a mostly motorway run with a self imposed 75mph limit and the smoothest driving style I can adopt without becoming so bored that I feel compelled to top myself - all according to the notoriously optimistic OBC.
Knock off a bit for the lies the OBC tells, and a bit more for the Auto and your numbers aren't a million miles away from mine.
The 185 D5s are much less economical than the 163s (blame the EuroIV complicance stuff, mostly the DPF), the 205s are supposed to be thirstier than the 185s.
I've got a 2007 car too, mine is the Gen 2 version I think....not the current shape anyway. It's a D5 auto/geartronic.Is the 2008 MY the 205 or 185bhp D5 ?
My 2007 MY 185 manual V70 D5 does about 35-36 mpg around town, 38-39 on a mostly motorway journey with my normal driving style. I can get it upto 41 on a mostly motorway run with a self imposed 75mph limit and the smoothest driving style I can adopt without becoming so bored that I feel compelled to top myself - all according to the notoriously optimistic OBC.
Knock off a bit for the lies the OBC tells, and a bit more for the Auto and your numbers aren't a million miles away from mine.
The 185 D5s are much less economical than the 163s (blame the EuroIV complicance stuff, mostly the DPF), the 205s are supposed to be thirstier than the 185s.
Edited by Seight_Returns on Friday 19th August 11:36
Anyway, after 4 years of ownership the average mpg is sitting at just over 41mpg, but that is after lots of relatively slow motorway driving. In fact I've just done my best ever tank to tank run of 747 miles!
It sounds like the OP has the same engine/gearbox combo as me and I have to say, my economy figures aren't much better than his....I'm lucky if I break mid 20's round town and with a mixture of steady town/A road and motorway driving mid 30's is probably where my MPG is averaging out. That's all on the trip computers calculations mind?!
Whilst the MPG certainly isn't great, it's a pretty nipppy, heavy automatic car, so I'm not expecting miracles.
Hi Norbs just noticed this thread.
many of the customers car that came in for service on the info centre showed average of 32 ish on the Euro 4 variants around that year.
if there was a problem the engine management light would be on or a code set,worth going to the dealer to get the codes checked and to see if there are a technical bulletins with reference to poor fuel consumption.
as mentioned the Euro 3 variants were much better averaging high 40s to mid 50s.
many of the customers car that came in for service on the info centre showed average of 32 ish on the Euro 4 variants around that year.
if there was a problem the engine management light would be on or a code set,worth going to the dealer to get the codes checked and to see if there are a technical bulletins with reference to poor fuel consumption.
as mentioned the Euro 3 variants were much better averaging high 40s to mid 50s.
simonej said:
These stories make me glad I bought a 163bhp Euro3 on the facelift (05)! I get 41mpg with a whole tank done at 90mph with cruise and air con on. If I stick to 65-70mph with no air con and no cruise I can eek out 60mpg.
It comes down to this (in my opinion). I have a (57) D5 185 bhp Euro 4, my mate has the same as you and the mpg he seems to get round town, is similar to what I get on a run.I should point out, his is manual and mine is auto. Mine is noticeably quicker and feels a bit tighter but again, like you say, he's probably averaging 10mpg better than me
simonej said:
These stories make me glad I bought a 163bhp Euro3 on the facelift (05)! I get 41mpg with a whole tank done at 90mph with cruise and air con on. If I stick to 65-70mph with no air con and no cruise I can eek out 60mpg.
Genuine (ie tank to tank brimming) or on the dash display?I remember you saying on the other thread, didn't realise you'd responded to the same statement I did, that'll teach me to read properly
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I've blanked off my EGR valve, just to see what happens. The black smoke has all but stopped, which is, I think, a good sign. As it's the Euro 3 model, I believe the ECU isn't sophisticated enough to notice the EGR is doing nothing. At least, I hope that's the case.
It'd be nice if I could get the darned thing up to high 40's, it'd make all the ambling along at 70 on cruise worth it, although it is very relaxing!
Most I've had out of a tank has been 649 miles, at a touch over 65 litres, so not completely empty, but close enough. That works out at just under 45 mpg, but was a rare one off. Average to date, predominantly motorway use (at 70, pretty much), is 42 mpg.
. I've blanked off my EGR valve, just to see what happens. The black smoke has all but stopped, which is, I think, a good sign. As it's the Euro 3 model, I believe the ECU isn't sophisticated enough to notice the EGR is doing nothing. At least, I hope that's the case.
It'd be nice if I could get the darned thing up to high 40's, it'd make all the ambling along at 70 on cruise worth it, although it is very relaxing!
Most I've had out of a tank has been 649 miles, at a touch over 65 litres, so not completely empty, but close enough. That works out at just under 45 mpg, but was a rare one off. Average to date, predominantly motorway use (at 70, pretty much), is 42 mpg.
pmjg66 said:
he Euro 3 had no problems with black smoke,could be worth finding the root cause which could improve MPG.
It's had a new intercooler, and runs really smoothly, with plenty of power. It could be injectors or split intake pipes on the high pressure side of the turbo, although the ones I can see at the top of the engine look ok. It was on a diagnostic machine a little while back, which found no problems (doesn't mean there aren't any of course).
It also has an issue where it cuts out if on a long run and the fuel level dips below a quarter of a tank. Might be fuel pump/relay related.
Could just be it's old and knackered.
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