Questions for the brain trust Wedge + Chim/Griff
Discussion
Some questions.
Did the Griff's carry over the Granada based front hubs from the wedge cars.
Were off the shelf or custom TVR parts used on the Griff's outboard rear hubs/brakes compared to the inboards on the wedge?
Did the front or rear wheel pcd change between these cars?
Any links to the rear suspension of the later cars?
Many thanks in advance.
Phil
420 SEAC
Did the Griff's carry over the Granada based front hubs from the wedge cars.
Were off the shelf or custom TVR parts used on the Griff's outboard rear hubs/brakes compared to the inboards on the wedge?
Did the front or rear wheel pcd change between these cars?
Any links to the rear suspension of the later cars?
Many thanks in advance.
Phil
420 SEAC
shpub said:
The Chim/griff uses a completely different front suspension - double unequal wishbone and a totally different diff.
There is NOTHING common from these cars with the Wedges.
I concurr. The Wedge chassis/suspension design is far inferior in standard trim. The Chim/Griff's have coilovers & the whole thing is infinately more adjustable. There is NOTHING common from these cars with the Wedges.
A Griff on poly bushes, Nitrons with corner weighting, & proper balanced brakes will run rings around 'any' Wedge.
That's without the weight difference. Your avarage Wedge is a much bigger car than your avarage Griff. You won't fully apreciate this untill you've been looking at a Griff in your Garage for 18 months, then suddenly replace it with a Wedge. I was quite struck by the difference in size. The doors, bonnet & boot of a Griff weigh nothing. Whereas the equivalent parts on a Wedge take some lifting. Big difference.
IMHO of course. Buying a Wedge has to be a nostalgic decision not a performance decision. Was for me anyway.
P.S. My old Lotus Excel would corner 10mph faster than the Griff any day of the week.
P.P.S. & let go gently & controlably once the limit had been exceeded.
That's without the weight difference. Your avarage Wedge is a much bigger car than your avarage Griff. You won't fully apreciate this untill you've been looking at a Griff in your Garage for 18 months, then suddenly replace it with a Wedge. I was quite struck by the difference in size. The doors, bonnet & boot of a Griff weigh nothing. Whereas the equivalent parts on a Wedge take some lifting. Big difference.
IMHO of course. Buying a Wedge has to be a nostalgic decision not a performance decision. Was for me anyway.
P.S. My old Lotus Excel would corner 10mph faster than the Griff any day of the week.
P.P.S. & let go gently & controlably once the limit had been exceeded.
Edited by pwd95 on Sunday 1st August 00:16
Edited by pwd95 on Sunday 1st August 00:18
Transmitter Man said:
Did they not have half the inferiority cured with the SEAC suspension and adjustable rose joints?
Some would also argue about moving the rear brakes outboard!
No and yes. On a car where so much was achieved such as the USA crash testing it is the low point to look at the suspension design compared to the cars before and after it (M and Griff) esp. the rear what were they thinking? Inboard brakes are cool though -only TVR to have them IIRC.Some would also argue about moving the rear brakes outboard!
Yes, the wedge does weigh something doesn't it although remember the SEAC panels were made lighter or so I've been told.
I'm looking for some of that Lotus handling.
With the big engined Griff it would be interested to see how close they would be to a Tuscan Racer in a side by side race around the track.
Do remember I'm not running a 5.0L engine with all that extra torque.
Have you see the vid's on the SEAC page: http://www.theseacpages.co.uk/videos.aspx
Phil
420 SEAC
I'm looking for some of that Lotus handling.
With the big engined Griff it would be interested to see how close they would be to a Tuscan Racer in a side by side race around the track.
Do remember I'm not running a 5.0L engine with all that extra torque.
Have you see the vid's on the SEAC page: http://www.theseacpages.co.uk/videos.aspx
Phil
420 SEAC
Transmitter Man said:
Yes, the wedge does weigh something doesn't it
Yes, about 20% more than the Griff.Transmitter Man said:
although remember the SEAC panels were made lighter or so I've been told.
Yes, you get 5% back there.Transmitter Man said:
I'm looking for some of that Lotus handling.
Forget it. Ask wedg1e.Transmitter Man said:
With the big engined Griff it would be interested to see how close they would be to a Tuscan Racer in a side by side race around the track.
Not close at all. Yes, the Tuscan racer really is that fast... and light.Gassing Station | TVR Major Mods | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff