Roller Rockers Pros's and Con's

Roller Rockers Pros's and Con's

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Pasco

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Monday 25th August 2008
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Well having watched Clive F set the tappets on my motor, three spanners and a feeler gauge all at once cheers buddy thumbup it occurred to me that the simplicity of doing that job with roller rockers is a far better proposal yes

So i have brought these baby's



I also realise that they may give an HP improvement at top end so what is the theory behind this and what should i expect to gain ?

My car is running a solid cam an after market ecu big injectors lots of induction mods and Dino's 350 hp

Thanks in advance

Pasco

Del 203

12,728 posts

256 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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scratchchin Have you already got the clear perspex rocker covers ??

Pasco

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Monday 25th August 2008
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Del 203 said:
scratchchin Have you already got the clear perspex rocker covers ??
Are you Stalking me !!

hehe

AntonyJ

5,254 posts

288 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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Pasco said:
and Dino's 350 hp

Pasco
Won't he want them back? hehe

Pasco

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Monday 25th August 2008
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AntonyJ said:
Pasco said:
and Dino's 350 hp

Pasco
Won't he want them back? hehe
You know what i mean Smart Ass smile

Del 203

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256 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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Think you better start another thread Pasty boy smile

Looks like a few of us have Major Mods on the Fav list wink


Still, all your Chimp mates should leave you alone in here hehe

Pasco

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Blimey i come on here to have a serious conversation and this happens cry

I suppose i have made a rod for my own back Del

Del 203

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Monday 25th August 2008
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Pasco said:
Blimey i come on here to have a serious conversation and this happens cry

I suppose i have made a rod for my own back Del
Vengeance is hehe

I actually hope you get some answers mate, i'm thinking about some Yella Terra's biggrin

Pasco

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Monday 25th August 2008
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Del 203 said:
Pasco said:
Blimey i come on here to have a serious conversation and this happens cry

I suppose i have made a rod for my own back Del
Vengeance is hehe

I actually hope you get some answers mate, i'm thinking about some Yella Terra's biggrin
I know someone who has some roller rockers to sell mate PM if you want to know more smile

GreenV8S

30,478 posts

291 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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Cons: They cost a lot more, they take up more space under the rocker covers (may need bigger covers), they may be heavier which is generally bad in a valve train.

Pros: they are probably adjustable (no real benefit for a hydraulic cam but handy if you have solid lifters, although you can get non-roller adjustable rockers too).

The main benefit is that it avoids putting side load on the valve stem which means you can run a higher lift cam.

Pasco

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GreenV8S said:
Cons: They cost a lot more, they take up more space under the rocker covers (may need bigger covers), they may be heavier which is generally bad in a valve train.

Pros: they are probably adjustable (no real benefit for a hydraulic cam but handy if you have solid lifters, although you can get non-roller adjustable rockers too).

The main benefit is that it avoids putting side load on the valve stem which means you can run a higher lift cam.
Cheers Pete thumbup

The set i brought have little if no work and cost me £400 and came with a custom made set of spacers which i may or may not need in the purple rocker covers smile

I have solid lifters and cam yes

My cam is very wild so what improvements can i expect ? will it let me rev the engine higher than the 6200 rpm where i see my current max hp Pete ?



Boosted LS1

21,198 posts

267 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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They also need less oil to lube them so you can restrict the head supply. They may not have good geometry and sweep across the valve tip properly so can you move them away/towards the valve? They'll take ages to set up but if you like that sort of thingsmile

Pasco

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Boosted LS1 said:
They also need less oil to lube them so you can restrict the head supply. They may not have good geometry and sweep across the valve tip properly so can you move them away/towards the valve? They'll take ages to set up but if you like that sort of thingsmile
Hello Mike nice to meet you at Joo's the other week smile

Sorry mate but i thought they took no setting up scratchchin and were a sensible move forwards

I'm now confused

Boosted LS1

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Monday 25th August 2008
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Nice to meet you tosmile

Obviously you have to set up rocker arm/valve clearances but depending on the rocker arm ratio and geometry you need to ensure a nice 'sweep' across the valve stem. This will encourage the valves to rotate properly. I once saw a set of KB's on an engine and they were all wrong so they were removed and years later are probably still gathering dust somewhere. Adjustable rockers aren't my strong point but you do need to consider these issues when installing them. You'll have to check each one to if you want the best from them.

Pasco

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Boosted LS1 said:
Nice to meet you tosmile

Obviously you have to set up rocker arm/valve clearances but depending on the rocker arm ratio and geometry you need to ensure a nice 'sweep' across the valve stem. This will encourage the valves to rotate properly. I once saw a set of KB's on an engine and they were all wrong so they were removed and years later are probably still gathering dust somewhere. Adjustable rockers aren't my strong point but you do need to consider these issues when installing them. You'll have to check each one to if you want the best from them.
Ok mate so set up is very important but what about the positives i hope there are some smile

Boosted LS1

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Monday 25th August 2008
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Positives are they may give you a more stable valvetrain, faster opening/closing events, higher lift and more under the curve duration and an increase in rpm's smile

Pasco

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Boosted LS1 said:
Positives are they may give you a more stable valvetrain, faster opening/closing events, higher lift and more under the curve duration and an increase in rpm's smile
And the potential of more HP then yes

Boosted LS1

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Monday 25th August 2008
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^ and torque smile

Pasco

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Boosted LS1 said:
^ and torque smile
Thanks mate as long as i have not wasted £400 smile

rev-erend

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291 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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Pasco - welcome to the Kenne Belle owners club.. smile

Are you running the same cam as he - V* dev 404 mechanical ?