RE: Supercharged TVR now on demo

RE: Supercharged TVR now on demo

Tuesday 6th February 2007

Supercharged TVR now on demo

TVR Power shows off 275bhp Chimaera


Chimaera with supercharged 4-litre V8
Chimaera with supercharged 4-litre V8
TVR Power has built a demo car to show off the capabilities of its supercharger add-on to 4.0-litre Rover V8-powered TVRs, and said that it's taking bookings.

According to the company, the SC400 demo car, to showcases the capabilities of its uniquely designed, £4,500 supercharger modification, which offers a boost for a standard engine up to 275bhp and 280ft-lb of torque -- TVR spec for this engine was nominally 240bhp but usually over-stated the reality.

TVR Power boss Dom Trickett said: "If you would like to turn your 4.0 into a tarmac monster then give us quick phone call and we can discuss your requirements and maybe even a demonstration run."

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dinkel

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27,177 posts

265 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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Would that fit on a 5.0 (Griff) as well? evil

They are rumored to be racing a 5ltr supercharged car this year..


Edited by Graham on Tuesday 6th February 12:37


Thans for editing!

Edited by dinkel on Wednesday 7th February 10:45

fatboy b

9,574 posts

223 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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dinkel said:
Would that fit on a 5.0 (Griff) as well? evil

Looks like they're working on that - check the link out. But £4500 plus VAT yikes

minimax

11,984 posts

263 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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is it 275hp at the wheels or the crank? I think there was a conflicting report...either is good, but one is much better evil

jsr

1,155 posts

257 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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minimax said:
is it 275hp at the wheels or the crank? I think there was a conflicting report...either is good, but one is much better evil

I believe it is at the wheels

350matt

3,770 posts

286 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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seems a bit steep for the price if the power is at the flywheel, if it is at the wheels then its much more reasonable

Matt

taraka1

19 posts

231 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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All our HP figures are at the rear wheels.

350matt

3,770 posts

286 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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Well thats pretty good as its probably making about 320-330ish at the flywheel

nice


Matt

Nano2nd

3,426 posts

263 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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fatboy b said:
But £4500 plus VAT yikes


i'm glad i'm not the only one that thinks that

funkyol

1,816 posts

226 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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Nano2nd said:
fatboy b said:
But £4500 plus VAT yikes


i'm glad i'm not the only one that thinks that


a lot of the cost is probably the Supercharger itself. I'm hoping they're using Rotrex units, opposed to the woefully inefficient Eaton blowers found in Merc's and Mini's. It costs £4000+ to supercharge a Saxo, so I don't see the price as being unreasonable.

Plus the whine noise you get from a supercharger sounds wicked - like a jet engine!

midgster

586 posts

241 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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taraka1 said:
All our HP figures are at the rear wheels.


I hope it is at the wheels, as a standard 4.0HC is "quoted" at 275BHP

I'm sure the HC models aren't £5300 (£4500+VAT) more expensive to buy than a standard 4.0

BossCerbera

8,188 posts

250 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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fatboy b said:
But £4500 plus VAT yikes

Amazingly cheap isn't it?

targarama

14,661 posts

290 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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midgster said:
taraka1 said:
All our HP figures are at the rear wheels.


I hope it is at the wheels, as a standard 4.0HC is "quoted" at 275BHP

I'm sure the HC models aren't £5300 (£4500+VAT) more expensive to buy than a standard 4.0


But a HC only really makes a little more power than a 4.0. Plus these are 'at the wheels' figures. Whereas TVR's 240 hp was 'at the flywheel'.

I think its a good price. Gives the 4.0L more gogo juice than most 5.0L models without the pains of swapping engines & lower fuel economy.

funkyol

1,816 posts

226 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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BossCerbera said:
fatboy b said:
But £4500 plus VAT yikes

Amazingly cheap isn't it?


funkyol said:
a lot of the cost is probably the Supercharger itself. I'm hoping they're using Rotrex units, opposed to the woefully inefficient Eaton blowers found in Merc's and Mini's. It costs £4000+ to supercharge a Saxo, so I don't see the price as being unreasonable.


Great minds eh

Al 450

1,390 posts

228 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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Dom, are you planning on doing a kit for a 4.5?

I see lot's of upgrades for 4.0 and 5.0 but nothing much for us in the middle.

funkyol

1,816 posts

226 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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Al 450 said:
Dom, are you planning on doing a kit for a 4.5?

I see lot's of upgrades for 4.0 and 5.0 but nothing much for us in the middle.


Fundamentally, the late 4.0, 4.5 and 5.0 blocks are the same are they not? Just with increasingly larger pistons, valves etc as t the capacity goes up?

A supercharger works on a pulleys system so surely the layout of the alternator etc is the same on all the engines, so would the 4.0 conversion not work for all 3 models, just with a different map or something?

Please forgive my ignorance in advance.......

Nano2nd

3,426 posts

263 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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funkyol said:
Nano2nd said:
fatboy b said:
But £4500 plus VAT yikes


i'm glad i'm not the only one that thinks that


a lot of the cost is probably the Supercharger itself. I'm hoping they're using Rotrex units, opposed to the woefully inefficient Eaton blowers found in Merc's and Mini's. It costs £4000+ to supercharge a Saxo, so I don't see the price as being unreasonable.

Plus the whine noise you get from a supercharger sounds wicked - like a jet engine!


Saxos aside i can get pretty much the same hardware in the states for the 302 for $1600 yes 1600 dollars!
i've had this discussion before and i realise there are development costs involved, but IMO its just too expensive! plus this is the basic kit too, i mean whats the 4.5/5.0 one gonna cost? at the rate the second hand tvr prices are going it'll be more that a complete car

considering how long its took i was expecting the costs to be closer to 3k, i would have signed on the dotted line myself. i now think a speed6 car would be a better option and take the 5-6k risk on a potential autocraft rebuild...

funkyol

1,816 posts

226 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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Nano2nd said:
Saxos aside i can get pretty much the same hardware in the states for the 302 for $1600 yes 1600 dollars!
i've had this discussion before and i realise there are development costs involved, but IMO its just too expensive! plus this is the basic kit too, i mean whats the 4.5/5.0 one gonna cost? at the rate the second hand tvr prices are going it'll be more that a complete car

considering how long its took i was expecting the costs to be closer to 3k, i would have signed on the dotted line myself. i now think a speed6 car would be a better option and take the 5-6k risk on a potential autocraft rebuild...


Hmm, but if you like the way a V8 drives and sounds, then the Speed 6 isn't a viable alternative. I can understand your point about spending £5k on potentially a car that can be had for £10k but then if you're worried about money you wouldn't buy and own a TVR in the first place. 300+ lbs ft and 270/80 at the wheels would be pant-wettingly good fun, plus you'd finally be able to embarass the countless numbers of Impreza's on the road that would normally wipe the floor with a 4 litre Chim.

bunglist

545 posts

237 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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funkyol said:
Nano2nd said:
fatboy b said:
But £4500 plus VAT yikes


i'm glad i'm not the only one that thinks that


a lot of the cost is probably the Supercharger itself. I'm hoping they're using Rotrex units, opposed to the woefully inefficient Eaton blowers found in Merc's and Mini's. It costs £4000+ to supercharge a Saxo, so I don't see the price as being unreasonable.

Plus the whine noise you get from a supercharger sounds wicked - like a jet engine!




Why The FcensoredK would you want to supercharge a Saxo, now that would be a waste of your hard earned cash.

qube_TA

8,405 posts

252 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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aren't there cheaper ways to get an extra 35 horses?

funkyol

1,816 posts

226 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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bunglist said:
Why The FcensoredK would you want to supercharge a Saxo, now that would be a waste of your hard earned cash.


I wouldn't, but plenty of people have. It gives a good 200+ bhp from the 1.6 engine, in a car that actually handles and weighs as much as a can of beans.