Time for a new Griffith project.

Time for a new Griffith project.

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dnb

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3,330 posts

247 months

Tuesday 9th January 2007
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The ECU work is done and dusted now, so I need to think of something else to do to the car in the off-season. Given the extreme milage - 104k on the original cam - this wasn't difficult to find.

So, what started out as an engine refresh has turned in to a large refurb project. The goal is to have an as-new Griffith 500, but taking advantage of the 10 years of development that have happened since the car was new.

In no particular order, here's what I'm doing:

Body-off chassis refurb - strip and paint with POR15 products
Replace all the ball joints and fit polybushes
Fit the braided brake hoses that have sat in the cupboard for the last year
Refresh the fuel system, including new fuel pump and plumbing

New stereo stuff
Repair the heated seats. (I like them and I use the car in the winter)
Retrim seats and door cards etc.
7" reflector lamps and HID kit

Cam shaft (H404 is most likely), followers, rockers, chain
Ceramic coated manifolds
Generally tidy the engine bay where I haven't already done so
New clutch - it seems sensible while everything is apart

And whatever else I find is broken along the way...

I started by stripping the interior out last night and found the seat bases were almost rusted through in a couple of places!! I can see there's a lot of work ahead. Pics and stuff will follow in the next few weeks.

apache

39,731 posts

289 months

Tuesday 9th January 2007
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I'd upgrade the wiring to weatherproof connections where possible too

dnb

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3,330 posts

247 months

Tuesday 9th January 2007
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Yes - a very good idea. I did most of these in the engine bay and dash when I did the ECU & fuseboard work... But no doubt there will be a few in the doors and stuff left.

apache

39,731 posts

289 months

Tuesday 9th January 2007
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dnb said:
Yes - a very good idea. I did most of these in the engine bay and dash when I did the ECU & fuseboard work... But no doubt there will be a few in the doors and stuff left.



I wrapped the door stuff up in placky bags and used fibreglass tape to insulate things like the temp sensor wiring. The main area for worry is the lights as these are exposed to the elements and come with poxy automotive spade connectors. The fuel pump/relay/wiring is asking for trouble where it is too.
Keep us posted, I wish I had the space and money to do it.

GingerNinja

3,961 posts

263 months

Tuesday 9th January 2007
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Good luck and here's the benchmark!

www.griffith.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

jester7

423 posts

221 months

Tuesday 9th January 2007
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I am in the middle of doing my own rebuild on my Griff, its mostly stripped down, just deciding on weather to remove the chassis from the body???

dnb

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247 months

Tuesday 9th January 2007
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apache - good idea re. the bags in the doors! I have the space for the work now, but I think I used most of the money to buy the space...

Jester7 - If your chassis looks anything like mine, then it's definitely worth doing.

Ffirg 005

2,013 posts

256 months

Tuesday 9th January 2007
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jester7 said:
I am in the middle of doing my own rebuild on my Griff, its mostly stripped down, just deciding on weather to remove the chassis from the body???


There have been several body-off projects for Chims, Griffs and Cerbs reported on PH now. Some had worse rust than others, but they all had it bad enough for the owners not to regret the effort involved. My '96 Cerb chassis had it worst on the outriggers and engine mounts, and large areas of the powdercoating disintegrated in other areas with rust starting to work away.

jester7

423 posts

221 months

Wednesday 10th January 2007
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dnb said:
apache - good idea re. the bags in the doors! I have the space for the work now, but I think I used most of the money to buy the space...

Jester7 - If your chassis looks anything like mine, then it's definitely worth doing.



Thanks for the advice, have now got the chassis off the car!!! Took about three hours only cause two bolts snapped off in the chassis.

dnb

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3,330 posts

247 months

Sunday 14th January 2007
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Quick update:

Got all the interior I need out for now. Carpet templates are in production and seat covers have been removed from the seats ready for the trimmer. We've selected the new colours and material too.

I've started on the engine removal. Ancilliaries are all removed and I'm in the process of dismantling them for painting, service and the like. Watch out Clive - I'm (for a while anyway) after the tidiest engine bay in a Griff

Doubt I'll get much more done this weekend - there's pressing house stuff to do and my garage lights have packed up

jellison

12,803 posts

282 months

Tuesday 30th January 2007
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You can build mine if you want!! hohoho

www.tvrmonster.co.uk/news6.html !!!

dnb

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Sunday 18th February 2007
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Few (belated) pics. Had a few problems with the other car that's consumed TVR time...







It looks like I caught the metalworm just in time...

jellison

12,803 posts

282 months

Monday 19th February 2007
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dnb said:
Few (belated) pics. Had a few problems with the other car that's consumed TVR time...

It looks like I caught the metalworm just in time...
Indeed - That will all come right fairly easily - but like you say - much longer and would have been major work.

spend

12,581 posts

256 months

Friday 23rd February 2007
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Dave,

It looks from the pictures that the worst rot is on the rear of the outriggers round about the seatbelt mount to front of seat area, is that correct. If so do you have any opinions on why that area is so affected (but more importantly any ideas how to protect it).

Dave

dnb

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Friday 23rd February 2007
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Yes, these are the worst places. I have no ideas that make sense to me yet as to why these bits should be the worst - the left hand side (which collects all the mud and stuff from the road) is in better condition than the right, and the area subjected to the most spray from the wheels is OK too.

The bottom of the tube is actually in very good condition because it has been maintained reasonably well over the years.

Ffirg 005

2,013 posts

256 months

Friday 23rd February 2007
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I would have thought the top sides are worst because moisture (and salt and crud) gets trapped between the tube and the body. As to why it's worse towards the rear of the outriggers - just a guess, but maybe there's more heat radiating around in the front (front brakes, engine exhaust) so that crud cocktail gets dried out more and so is less corrosive.

rev-erend

21,503 posts

289 months

Monday 26th February 2007
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The outriggers on TVR's are always the worst .. other parts often get a bit of leaked engine / gearbox oil but all the outriggers get is water and salt from the wheels..

Hence why may servicing places clean this area and then put some waxoil or similar..

dnb

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Monday 26th February 2007
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A "bit" of leaked oil is perhaps an understatement in my case

spend

12,581 posts

256 months

Monday 26th February 2007
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Maybe we should forget Por/Bilt/epoxy/powder coat and just copperslip the chassis ~ then go round like old engine driver occasionally It could have a really nice bath every 3k or 6months which ever comes first!

Dave

dnb

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Friday 2nd March 2007
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Getting back on to topic...

I started on the engine while the chassis is sitting in the queue at the shot blasters.

I found that I had 15 1/2 pads on my rockers. I suppose I'm doing better than CliveF on this, but it's not ideal for engine performance! Given it was the inlet for cyl 3, I suspect this was causing the excessive hydrocarbon readings I saw on the gas tester.

I'll see what else the weekend brings.