carbs or stick with fuel injection

carbs or stick with fuel injection

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993phill

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427 posts

227 months

Friday 15th December 2006
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now the tuscan is back it is time to refit it all up but i cant decide wheather to stick with the fuel injection system or to fit a webber four barrel carb
the engine is a griffith 400 engine that has been breathed on a little bit dyno for about 225 bhp i hope that will be ok in this car as it is so light if not castle engines will be getting a bit of work
if i fit carbs it will make the wiring a lot easier for me and also any future mods will not need a visit to a rolling road with a laptop
but if i stick with fuel inj i have got all the parts already so cost is minimal
any ideas on the carbs or any of the above would be most welcome
thanks phill

ps if the weather picks up i will get a pic and post it before i strip the car down again

Graham

16,368 posts

289 months

Monday 18th December 2006
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Wiring up the EFI is a doddle really if you've got the engine bay loom its only about 6 wires you need to connect up and if you've got all the bits your already ahead. longer term if you want to tune things you can either get the lucas remapped or stick in an emerald or somthing. If your looking to cre to maybe do some engine upgrades then they have a lot of emerald experience now especially when combined with Joolz rollers.


Just dont ask jamie to convert from carbs to EFI, he may kill you...

one thing that you will need to consider is the fuel pumps etc. I assume your using a new tank in the rear somewhere. with a carb setup you could probably get away with a low presure pump like a red top. with efi you'll either need an in tank swirl pot or a red top feeding an external swirlpot and then a high pressure pump.

I ran my tuscan with a 4ltr in 05 and the start of 06 and we had a similar amount of power. Its certainly quicker than a chim and will be fun on the road. On the track though the chassis needs a bit more power to get the best out of it

G


Edited by Graham on Monday 18th December 11:54

apache

39,731 posts

289 months

Monday 18th December 2006
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We ended up fitting a 4 barrel Webber to our old 5.0 Griff and it worked very well. I don't know how far you're going tuniing wise but the stuff you can bin is quite impressive, ECU, AFM, Lambdas, wiring, stepper etc. It really does eliminate a lot of potential gremlins. The power gain was noticeable and the intake noise was nice but the fuel economy did suffer a little

loudandfast

213 posts

289 months

Wednesday 16th May 2007
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hi phill i can help with the wiring for you. just got mine running for the first time in 2 years. runs like a dream.
cheers andy (pds)

993phill

Original Poster:

427 posts

227 months

Wednesday 16th May 2007
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hi andy
keep meaning to pop over and have a look
actually got the tuscan running about a week ago surprised you could not hear it
will try to come and have a look at yours soon and you can come over any time

richtvr

467 posts

231 months

Sunday 20th May 2007
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i would personal go with efi, i ran an elebrook webber on mine fuel useage was about 8 to the gallon, i also had to get mine set up on a rolling road to be perfect and not many people can set carbs up that well in my findings

rich

V8_Simon

43 posts

264 months

Wednesday 30th May 2007
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Holey?

trackcar

6,453 posts

231 months

Wednesday 30th May 2007
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you are much better off going for a cheap aftermarket ECU .. the response and max power everywhere in the rev range are worthy in their own right, but you'll also get beter economy so you can carry less fuel! Carbs are old technology and the fuel slope you get is a compromise .. plus not many places these days keep carb jets, EFI is better in just about every respect smile

rev-erend

21,503 posts

289 months

Wednesday 30th May 2007
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Plus carbs love to spit back and BBQ plastic cars .. go for an Emerald biggrin

jamieheasman

823 posts

289 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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If you've got a standard EFI set-up handy, just fit that. With your motor it's difficult to justify going after-market and carbs are going to be an even bigger compromise or will cost a fair bit to have set-up correctly - IMHO.

Personally, when I do my next install I'm going to go with Suzuki throttle bodies on a custom inlet manifold and probably an Emerald ECU. It's nowhere near as expensive as it sounds and the individual throttles makes it a lot easier to keep a naughty cam road-usuable.