Cerbera - Alternative Engine

Cerbera - Alternative Engine

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the ringmeister

Original Poster:

279 posts

241 months

Friday 14th July 2006
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I know this has been done to death.

Does anyone offer an off the shelf alternative engine package for a Cerb.

I know of various on going project;

*Speed Eights Chevy V8 in a Tuscan
*RT Racing BMW M3 engine in a cerb - Is it finished yet?
*Steve Heaths Chevy V8 in a Cerb - Is it inished yet?
*I can also remember an outfit marketing a Rover V8 conversion

As the prices of cerb's are looking very reasonable, shoehorning a big relaible V8 (or straight 6)has a lot of appeal to me and i'm sure a few others.

(Before I get cut down by the "It will not suit the cars Character" brigade, I think the AJP and Speed Six are fantastic engines, but just not for me.)

topsparks

1,202 posts

250 months

Friday 14th July 2006
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Speak to jellison,he has put an LS6 lump in his Chim and Iam sure he could help you put one in a Cerb-good luck!.

Ffirg 005

2,012 posts

254 months

Friday 14th July 2006
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I'm putting an LS6 in a Cerb in New Zealand. Just finishing construction of the garage to house it all this month and should (finally) start putting it all together after that. Steve is more advanced with his though and I expect he'll be the first to complete.

JR

12,722 posts

261 months

simonsparrow

1,501 posts

265 months

Saturday 15th July 2006
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The Cerbera already has a big reliable V8

The Tuscan chassis is pretty much the same as a Cerbs, just about 8" shorter, so I would think Speed8's conversion wouls pretty much fit, just need a shorter propshaft.

Edited by simonsparrow on Saturday 15th July 18:18

shpub

8,507 posts

275 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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Engine/transmission all in place. It turns over on the starter with no problems. Start popping the body back next week. It is not a simple "drop it in and away you go" conversion irrespective of what others may say as most seem to think that if the engine fits then it is a done deal. The real challenges are hooking it all up.

Edited by shpub on Monday 17th July 07:57

the ringmeister

Original Poster:

279 posts

241 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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shpub said:
Engine/transmission all in place. It turns over on the starter with no problems. Start popping the body back next week. It is not a simple "drop it in and away you go" conversion irrespective of what others may say as most seem to think that if the engine fits then it is a done deal. The real challenges are hooking it all up.

Edited by shpub on Monday 17th July 07:57


Steve

I appricate that its much more involved than just dropping a new unit in and driving off........i imagine the wiring and electrics are a nightmare!!!

When it finished and fully sorted, will you be offering it as a package or is it a "one off" ?

shpub

8,507 posts

275 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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Actually the wiring and electrics should be the easy bit. It is just that there are so many claims that it fits etc etc and the reality is far from that. It was the time operating lathes and milling machines to make the adapters and finding they have to be specific to the car and engine that caused the real fun!

Tower View and myself will be offering a conversion service.

jellison

12,803 posts

280 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Difficult to get it all working fine - It's all relative - seemed fairly straight forward to me

Been trashing mine for 13 or 14 months now - seems like forever.

Edited by jellison on Wednesday 19th July 15:40

simonsparrow

1,501 posts

265 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Some bods in Scotland were putting a Ford V8 in one too (302 pushrod engine, not overhead cam), but no news for a while on that project either.

jellison

12,803 posts

280 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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Dreadnought or something - best not talk about that - not exactly cutting edge!

cptsideways

13,612 posts

255 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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Why has no-one suggested the 1JZ-GTE or 2JZ-GTE Toyota turbo six engines, from the Supra/Soarer probably THE most reliable performance engine by FAR. In 2.5TT 280bhp or 3.0TT 320bhp standard both are easily capable of 400bhp for less than a 5k.

If anybody needs some dimms I have one here sat on my drive

JR

12,722 posts

261 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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cptsideways said:
Why has no-one suggested the 1JZ-GTE or 2JZ-GTE Toyota turbo six engines, from the Supra/Soarer probably THE most reliable performance engine by FAR. In 2.5TT 280bhp or 3.0TT 320bhp standard both are easily capable of 400bhp for less than a 5k.

Richard Thorpe looked into that.

trackcar

6,453 posts

229 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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jellison said:
Dreadnought or something - best not talk about that - not exactly cutting edge!


Not cutting edge, but seeing as it's a sean hyland lump it should be powerful and reliable just like a normal cerbie in good condition then

jellison

12,803 posts

280 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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trackcar said:
jellison said:
Dreadnought or something - best not talk about that - not exactly cutting edge!


Not cutting edge, but seeing as it's a sean hyland lump it should be powerful and reliable just like a normal cerbie in good condition then
sean hyland - is that supposed to mean anything to me? Have Googled (www.seanhylandmotorsport.com/mustang-crate-engines.shtml) - (God they all look big not just the DOHC ones - thouugh the Dreadnought was based on the pushrod crate 5.0 lump?)

I love Cerbs and would have one if a late one (at least the engines are a good design) and they seem to last or plenty of people around now that can mod / repair them.

But for those that want something different or can't be arsed with chasing the revs on the Cerb (like big fat torque curves) then a good strong BIG V8 is nice way to go.

But if a Tuscan that is a whole different ball game it should be the Nissen GTR lump and skip the SP6.

shpub

8,507 posts

275 months

Saturday 30th September 2006
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shpub said:
Engine/transmission all in place. It turns over on the starter with no problems. Start popping the body back next week. It is not a simple "drop it in and away you go" conversion irrespective of what others may say as most seem to think that if the engine fits then it is a done deal. The real challenges are hooking it all up.

Edited by shpub on Monday 17th July 07:57


Latest progress.... www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=311988&f=6&h=0

dickkark

747 posts

224 months

Saturday 30th September 2006
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simonsparrow said:
The Cerbera already has a big reliable V8

The Tuscan chassis is pretty much the same as a Cerbs, just about 8" shorter, so I would think Speed8's conversion wouls pretty much fit, just need a shorter propshaft.

Edited by simonsparrow on Saturday 15th July 18:18

if you shorten the prop on a tuscan it would end up two u.j.s bolted togetherhehe

v8sag

744 posts

213 months

Monday 2nd October 2006
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dickkark said:
simonsparrow said:
The Cerbera already has a big reliable V8

The Tuscan chassis is pretty much the same as a Cerbs, just about 8" shorter, so I would think Speed8's conversion wouls pretty much fit, just need a shorter propshaft.

Edited by simonsparrow on Saturday 15th July 18:18

if you shorten the prop on a tuscan it would end up two u.j.s bolted togetherhehe


Something like this shorty i made earlier...