WHAT ABOUT THE 6.0L RV8?

WHAT ABOUT THE 6.0L RV8?

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mongoose

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4,360 posts

262 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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Rather than go off topic on another thread running currently,i thought i'd ask on here about the 6 litre rv8.I have a rover v8 brochure from rimmers that says something like '6.0l rv8 coming soon'.So what happened there then?i've had the brochure a few years now,and only recently does the 5.5 litre seem to have become available.Surely theres a good story behind this as to why it hasn't happened?

shpub

8,507 posts

279 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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It was a misprint....

markh

2,781 posts

282 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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May be worth a look here

www.roverv8engine.co.uk/index2.htm

Boosted Ls1

21,198 posts

267 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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Ian Richardson casts the 6.0 blocks. He holds the patterns for them which he kept after work on the turbocharged bonneville MGF development for Rover some years ago. Keeping the patterns was a way of receiving part payment for his work. The project got axed when bmw took over?. Basically it has a 4" bore ala chevrolet so it can use chevy rods and pistons. He'll have his own crank as well. It's quite good imo but won't breath unless it has his wildcat heads on top. Imo it would be simpler to run a stock 4.6 with forced induction or go lsx.

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shpub

8,507 posts

279 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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So it has a custom block, a custom head and a custom crank..... hmmm not exactly much of a Rover V8 left is there?

v8 racing

2,064 posts

258 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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Absolutely there is no way you can call this a rover based engine anymore! it is basically a chevy motor now, a good feat of engineering by any standards and hats off to ian for doing it but a rover, that it is not!! I think my 5.5 is as big as you can go maybe a 5.6 but that would be it, i have to machine the rod bolts down on mine to clear the cam now and thats with a 96.5 mm bore so you cant go bigger there either

Boosted Ls1

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267 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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v8 racing said:
i have to machine the rod bolts down on mine to clear the cam now


That's another thing. Ian may have raised the camshaft centre line as it was always to low causing bolt fouling on stroker engines.

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leorest

2,346 posts

246 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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Spin-off thread "WHICH V8?" relating to Wedge specific application of Wildcat engines.

Leo

jellison

12,803 posts

284 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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IT's a CHEVY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boosted Ls1

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Thursday 22nd December 2005
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jellison said:
IT's a CHEVY!!!!!!!!!!!!


Well the bottom end may be very similar. I'm pretty certain the heads are based on the Buick Grand National as I was going to do some myself before I found out Ian had done his.

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fredtonge

159 posts

253 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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whats the point when the LS7 is the bench mark and the price will come down as soon as we all realise this and buy them

v8 racing

2,064 posts

258 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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yes the heads were based on the grand national heads, the down side was though they only really came alive around 5000 rpm and above so completely useless on a road engine, when they were put on a swirl meter they didnt even read!!! i know they are different now because we sent a pair of to a mr........ and when they came back lets just say they were mighty fine in all areas and ian has now re cast them like this..
I might be out my place saying this but i dont think you can compare the wildcat to any of the ls range of engines there is a huge difference in cost as well, the 6.0 is going to cost in a ball park figure around £18000 and this is going to get you anywhere between 500 to 800 bhp normally aspirated, i havent heard yet of figures anywhere near this for the ls range well the 500 yes but not much higher, maybe boosted knows of a few?

Boosted Ls1

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Thursday 22nd December 2005
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fredtonge said:
whats the point when the LS7 is the bench mark and the price will come down as soon as we all realise this and buy them


He did this years ago before the lsx's came into being. Also, there are rover engine bays not big enough for an lsx so a modded rover is the only option if you have deep pockets. Don't expect the ls7 to ever become 'mass produced'.

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jellison

12,803 posts

284 months

Friday 23rd December 2005
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A stoke LS7 is 515bhp - have heard of easy 600bhp ones - street engines - if you blowe them - sky is the limit - check out Jay Leno's car!

www.seriouswheels.com/top-1966-Oldsmobile-Toronado-Jay-Leno.htm


v8 racing

2,064 posts

258 months

Wednesday 4th January 2006
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yeh but when you think about it 515 bhp is good dont get me wrong but i have heard that gm went through a hell of a lot of development to reach these figures, how much more is to be gained?? i know or sorry read about several companies offering after market upgrades that dont even match what gm have done?? i honestly dont think you ever going to get the same figures out of an ls engine blown or otherwise than what wildcat can offer, the wildcat is a race built engine with the right port shape etc........ the ls is a road engine that you can tune, i have seen the dyno sheets for the boneville wildcat engine and running low boost it was over a 1000 bhp!!! now if your talking about pounds per bhp absolutely the ls engines win hands down!!