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Hi Matthew,
have been told by a couple of people that the air delaminates from the wall of the induction tube if fitted direct onto the collector box as in Clive's set up. I can't go through the bonnet as in the second picture as regulations don't allow but that would have been favourite I think.
have been told by a couple of people that the air delaminates from the wall of the induction tube if fitted direct onto the collector box as in Clive's set up. I can't go through the bonnet as in the second picture as regulations don't allow but that would have been favourite I think.
77racing said:
I will be fitting these to my engine over the winter and wondered if any one could post up pictures of how they have routed the cold air to them on their install. Just want to get a feel for what others have done. Cheers
Edited by 77racing on Sunday 29th November 18:19
Nice77racing said:
I will be fitting these to my engine over the winter and wondered if any one could post up pictures of how they have routed the cold air to them on their install. Just want to get a feel for what others have done. Cheers
They look really great.Edited by 77racing on Sunday 29th November 18:19
Should be pretty simple to route a pipe on each side down to the cool air under the car.
Guess you just need to source an air filter.
Something like this or a K & N ..
http://www.autosiliconehoses.com/silicone-hose-sho...
77racing said:
Hi Matthew,
have been told by a couple of people that the air delaminates from the wall of the induction tube if fitted direct onto the collector box as in Clive's set up. I can't go through the bonnet as in the second picture as regulations don't allow but that would have been favourite I think.
I would be very interested to see what you end up doing, I am seriously considering going down this route myself soon for no other reason aside from the sublime induction noise. I blame Andy race and Ian Rose who owns the car in the second photo. have been told by a couple of people that the air delaminates from the wall of the induction tube if fitted direct onto the collector box as in Clive's set up. I can't go through the bonnet as in the second picture as regulations don't allow but that would have been favourite I think.
That noise...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNcvdPUvKdg
Ian's setup doesn't go through the bonnet so looks standard with the bonnet shut, it apparently takes air from the grill in front of the windscreen. I know he did look at utilising the airboxes you have but I am not sure how far he got or why he decided for the ITG ariboxes.
Might be worth dropping him a PM to compare notes, roseytvr very nice chap and has kindly helped me out with things in the past.
https://matthewpoxon.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/i...
Yep that's mine with the JE TBs and flat panel filters. The original idea was a twin outlet air box to fit in the nose of the car over the original filter and I have an air box made up that fits. However I found the flat panels work fine even on the track and the car doesn't seem to suffer with hot air being inducted once I'm on the move. I have no holes in the bonnet but I think there's enough fresh air flying around that it's not an issue.
That said I will watch this with interest to see if you come up with any bright ideas
I have bought a spare bonnet to hack up for the track but haven't got round to it yet!Edited by roseytvr on Monday 30th November 22:00
roseytvr said:
https://matthewpoxon.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/i...
Yep that's mine with the JE TBs and flat panel filters. The original idea was a twin outlet air box to fit in the nose of the car over the original filter and I have an air box made up that fits. However I found the flat panels work fine even on the track and the car doesn't seem to suffer with hot air being inducted once I'm on the move. I have no holes in the bonnet but I think there's enough fresh air flying around that it's not an issue.
That said I will watch this with interest to see if you come up with any bright ideas I have bought a spare bonnet to hack up for the track but haven't got round to it yet!
I would have thought that under bonnet temps even in a road car would effect the air charge, especially sitting above the manifolds all beit they are coated. I will be taking air from a cold source, that's a must in my book but as I have the free use of rollers I will try both ways to have a look see, I may be talking dribble again. I will post up the results of my set up once it's up and running.Yep that's mine with the JE TBs and flat panel filters. The original idea was a twin outlet air box to fit in the nose of the car over the original filter and I have an air box made up that fits. However I found the flat panels work fine even on the track and the car doesn't seem to suffer with hot air being inducted once I'm on the move. I have no holes in the bonnet but I think there's enough fresh air flying around that it's not an issue.
That said I will watch this with interest to see if you come up with any bright ideas
I have bought a spare bonnet to hack up for the track but haven't got round to it yet!Edited by roseytvr on Monday 30th November 22:00
SILICONEKID345HP said:
When is the twin plenum up for grabs ?
Originally I was thinking early 2016 with an ECU upgrade but just had to pay for the camshaft and clutch to be replaced this month.... probably looking winter 2016 now. The throttle bodies are around 3k and one of Dom's MBE ECUs is 3k fitted so not a cheap endeavour at around 6k.77racing said:
I would have thought that under bonnet temps even in a road car would effect the air charge, especially sitting above the manifolds all beit they are coated. I will be taking air from a cold source, that's a must in my book but as I have the free use of rollers I will try both ways to have a look see, I may be talking dribble again. I will post up the results of my set up once it's up and running.
Will be observing with interest. Use of rollers would be very interesting to see the difference between the two approaches. MPoxon said:
Originally I was thinking early 2016 with an ECU upgrade but just had to pay for the camshaft and clutch to be replaced this month.... probably looking winter 2016 now. The throttle bodies are around 3k and one of Dom's MBE ECUs is 3k fitted so not a cheap endeavour at around 6k.
I am going to use Omex 710 ECU as I have used them on all my race cars for years now and can't fault them as a bit of kit or a company. The garage I use to fit them would fit and set up a complete system for a lot less than that 3k you been quoted. The car would have to come to Sunny Devon though for a few days. Still worse places to drink a cold Thatchers Gold or two.77racing said:
I am going to use Omex 710 ECU as I have used them on all my race cars for years now and can't fault them as a bit of kit or a company. The garage I use to fit them would fit and set up a complete system for a lot less than that 3k you been quoted. The car would have to come to Sunny Devon though for a few days. Still worse places to drink a cold Thatchers Gold or two.
I am not 100% set on MBE but it is very high on the list. When the times comes I will do some proper research. OMEX710 is a contender and recommend by my current mapper Mark Adams. It is the best ECU at that price point, very similar capabilities to the Motec ECUs but all features are unlocked without having to pay extra. I can think of worse places to sink a few jars. Devon is a very nice part of the world.
77racing said:
Heh Mac you Ok. I will let you know if they are If they get me outa Dodge that bit quicker.
Yeh, not bad thanks mate and hope all good your end. Be interested how you get on, seems a shame to have to close the bonnet with those on. If they get me outa Dodge that bit quicker.Edited by macdeb on Thursday 3rd December 16:26
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