C1 category licence
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how to get cat C or C1
complete form D2 to apply for the provisional category and a completed D4 form for the vocational drivers medical report ( your own GP will not be the cheapest unless s/he's a mate and does it for a bottle of scotch) plus the relevant spondollies to the DVLA
book, pay for and pass LGV theory
Book, pay for, attend Cat C or Cat 1 course
pass Cor C1 test (usually arranged at the same time as you book your course )
send off licence + C /C1 pass slip
alternatively jump in the TARDIS and pass your car test before 1996/7
complete form D2 to apply for the provisional category and a completed D4 form for the vocational drivers medical report ( your own GP will not be the cheapest unless s/he's a mate and does it for a bottle of scotch) plus the relevant spondollies to the DVLA
book, pay for and pass LGV theory
Book, pay for, attend Cat C or Cat 1 course
pass Cor C1 test (usually arranged at the same time as you book your course )
send off licence + C /C1 pass slip
alternatively jump in the TARDIS and pass your car test before 1996/7
mph1977 said:
how to get cat C or C1
complete form D2 to apply for the provisional category and a completed D4 form for the vocational drivers medical report ( your own GP will not be the cheapest unless s/he's a mate and does it for a bottle of scotch) plus the relevant spondollies to the DVLA
book, pay for and pass LGV theory
Book, pay for, attend Cat C or Cat 1 course
pass Cor C1 test (usually arranged at the same time as you book your course )
send off licence + C /C1 pass slip
alternatively jump in the TARDIS and pass your car test before 1996/7
Thanks MPH- how long would this process typically take?complete form D2 to apply for the provisional category and a completed D4 form for the vocational drivers medical report ( your own GP will not be the cheapest unless s/he's a mate and does it for a bottle of scotch) plus the relevant spondollies to the DVLA
book, pay for and pass LGV theory
Book, pay for, attend Cat C or Cat 1 course
pass Cor C1 test (usually arranged at the same time as you book your course )
send off licence + C /C1 pass slip
alternatively jump in the TARDIS and pass your car test before 1996/7
I believe the TARDIS is otherwise engaged...
jaf01uk said:
And you will be deprived of anything between £1000 and £1400 for the privilege as well..........
Gary
Cat C can be cheaper than C1 in some places ... but that's because the C1 market is / was initially quite niche and lots of girls, the niche mainly being two groups.Gary
- 18 years olds who want to do Paramedic Science at Uni - where having C1 or at least C1 provisional is now par fo rthe course after one HEI make aprat of themselves and gradauted a class of unemployable paramedics as none of them had got C1 and some didn';t have a driving licence...
- people who want to drive 7.5 tonne horse boxes
although the police need C1 drivers for Carriers some forces are training people internally using force vehicles and instructors where the Ambulance service takes the opposite view of getting people to get C1 before joining and then only doing the IHCD driver training in service ( even then there are services which do part or all of the IHCD driving while peopele are students and therefore unpaid/ bursary / App U... )
Edited by mph1977 on Thursday 18th November 21:27
Cheers MPH, yeah your right, I am an IHCD trainer and we had the DOT? at our college for a few weeks years ago as we were trying to get accreditation to incorporate C1 training as part of the initial non emergency driving course, and whilst they agreed we trained to a far higher level than that required for C1 they wouldn't give us it? Don't know what they're reasoning was as it is causing us severe recruitment problems now and can only get worse...
Gary
Gary
jaf01uk said:
Cheers MPH, yeah your right, I am an IHCD trainer and we had the DOT? at our college for a few weeks years ago as we were trying to get accreditation to incorporate C1 training as part of the initial non emergency driving course, and whilst they agreed we trained to a far higher level than that required for C1 they wouldn't give us it? Don't know what they're reasoning was as it is causing us severe recruitment problems now and can only get worse...
Gary
good question ... esp as the DSA etc have said they don't want to go down the route of Emergency driving being a licence category or 'modifier' ( like some other EU states)Gary
it's a good question why not - I think it;s also an unwillingness from some in the NHS to fund this based on the traditional model of employ people first and then train them...
to be honest if the IHCD hadn't been such a closed shop with the ASI-IHCD agreement that used to prevent none service personnel from getting IHCd certificates ... ( that stymied the SJA county I volunteer for from being able to get it done right - as various high ups won't accept the 'equivalent' quals and now the prices are rather too high per student from the places that do offer it externally ) i suspect the service would be expecting people to get IHCd trained before hand as well ... role on A+E ambulance staff training and development being top sliced in the way it is for other health Professionals ...
mph1977 said:
Cat C can be cheaper than C1 in some places ... but that's because the C1 market is / was initially quite niche and lots of girls, the niche mainly being two groups.
- 18 years olds who want to do Paramedic Science at Uni - where having C1 or at least C1 provisional is now par fo rthe course after one HEI make aprat of themselves and gradauted a class of unemployable paramedics as none of them had got C1 and some didn';t have a driving licence...
- people who want to drive 7.5 tonne horse boxes
although the police need C1 drivers for Carriers some forces are training people internally using force vehicles and instructors where the Ambulance service takes the opposite view of getting people to get C1 before joining and then only doing the IHCD driver training in service ( even then there are services which do part or all of the IHCD driving while peopele are students and therefore unpaid/ bursary / App U... )
waste of time to do a C1 when you can do a C, same price, same medical, same theory/hazard perception test, same practical test, doing a C1 makes no sense.- 18 years olds who want to do Paramedic Science at Uni - where having C1 or at least C1 provisional is now par fo rthe course after one HEI make aprat of themselves and gradauted a class of unemployable paramedics as none of them had got C1 and some didn';t have a driving licence...
- people who want to drive 7.5 tonne horse boxes
although the police need C1 drivers for Carriers some forces are training people internally using force vehicles and instructors where the Ambulance service takes the opposite view of getting people to get C1 before joining and then only doing the IHCD driver training in service ( even then there are services which do part or all of the IHCD driving while peopele are students and therefore unpaid/ bursary / App U... )
Edited by mph1977 on Thursday 18th November 21:27
pilotea said:
waste of time to do a C1 when you can do a C, same price, same medical, same theory/hazard perception test, same practical test, doing a C1 makes no sense.
for an 18 year old who has just passed their car test a 5tonne iveco daily/ sprinter 400 or a 7.5 tonner is plenty big enough ... vs being faced with an 18 t 'proper lorry' and as they only need the c1 ... horses for courses and that ...mph1977 said:
for an 18 year old who has just passed their car test a 5tonne iveco daily/ sprinter 400 or a 7.5 tonner is plenty big enough ... vs being faced with an 18 t 'proper lorry' and as they only need the c1 ... horses for courses and that ...
They'll also need less time to be ready for test generally as they won't have to get used to the more complicated gearing on the C class.They mostly will already have driven a transit & the Iveco daily etc won't seem like much of a step up compared to say a 16 tonner.
As you say horses for courses & it depends who is paying & what they want. My experience is that people will typically take half the time to get a combined C1/D1 that they will to get a C pass.
Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 2nd April 09:15
As an LGV instructor between 2005 and 2008 then I can perhaps help you a lot here
As stated in this post, most LGV training schools only have C vehicles and the cost gets higher if they have to hire in a C1 truck
As C1 is a subcategory of C then taking the C course makes sense
It will also give you more options in the future especially if you ever decide to go for CE as C must be passed first
When you fill in the DVLA D2 form tick for C & D provisionals as the medical will then cover both for as long as it is valid
D4 form for the medical but NEVER pay more than £52 for a medical - if you do then you have been fleeced
If you intend to drive commercially (not privately such as own horsebox or NHS ambulance) then you will need to pass the initial driver cpc modules 2 & 4
Always go and VISIT a training school before parting with ANY money - this will prevent you being conned by LGV training BROKERS (middlemen)
Most LGV courses are 5 days with test on day 5 but an assessment is always a good thing to do first and you can do many of those with many schools before deciding - some will charge and some will be free
5 days training can be all day with 2 trainees to 1 instructor or half days on 1 to 1
NEVER do 1 to 1 all day as the brain cannot take that level of concentration
Price will depend on which part of the UK you are in - the further north the cheaper the prices tend to be in general
The average for medical theory and practical is around £1,200 but that is without any retests which could be around £300 each
The initial driver cpc will also add another £300 approx
EDIT & ADD
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http://www.trucknetuk.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=5&...
As stated in this post, most LGV training schools only have C vehicles and the cost gets higher if they have to hire in a C1 truck
As C1 is a subcategory of C then taking the C course makes sense
It will also give you more options in the future especially if you ever decide to go for CE as C must be passed first
When you fill in the DVLA D2 form tick for C & D provisionals as the medical will then cover both for as long as it is valid
D4 form for the medical but NEVER pay more than £52 for a medical - if you do then you have been fleeced
If you intend to drive commercially (not privately such as own horsebox or NHS ambulance) then you will need to pass the initial driver cpc modules 2 & 4
Always go and VISIT a training school before parting with ANY money - this will prevent you being conned by LGV training BROKERS (middlemen)
Most LGV courses are 5 days with test on day 5 but an assessment is always a good thing to do first and you can do many of those with many schools before deciding - some will charge and some will be free
5 days training can be all day with 2 trainees to 1 instructor or half days on 1 to 1
NEVER do 1 to 1 all day as the brain cannot take that level of concentration
Price will depend on which part of the UK you are in - the further north the cheaper the prices tend to be in general
The average for medical theory and practical is around £1,200 but that is without any retests which could be around £300 each
The initial driver cpc will also add another £300 approx
EDIT & ADD
I hope this link below does not break any forum rules
http://www.trucknetuk.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=5&...
Edited by R0G on Thursday 23 June 12:37
Edited by R0G on Thursday 23 June 12:56
Edited by R0G on Thursday 23 June 12:58
JumboBeef said:
C1 (after 1998) is only valid until you are 45, then you have to take a medical every five years to keep it (pre 98 you have it until you are 70).
In most cases this is correct however if the driver passes their first DSA LGV test at age 42 then their next medical will at age 47, 52, 57 etcEdited by R0G on Thursday 23 June 12:58
fomb said:
IIRC you now need to add a C class license if you want to tow anything with your car too, which is rubbish. If you past your test at the right time, you got it automatically.
You got C1, not C, if you passed car test before 1997You also got B+E and C1+E(restricted) if car test passed prior to 1997
You are correct in saying that many assume that getting a higher licence such as C or C1 will mean that they can tow but what they really need is the +E bit
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