Dual carriageway - minor crosroads - central res pulling out
Discussion
Is the junction - A64 - to York is bottom left. I`m travelling on this road frequently & have now met 5 times the following:
Car has pulled into central res. wants to turn right & go to York. It`s stationary. Mixed traffic doing 60-70 in both lanes, gaps of between 20-70m. Car pulls out & occupies OUTSIDE lane. The expectation appears to be that traffic will move left, undertake & then when clear car will move into NS lane. I have done this, keeping well left, and have been very unhappy with the situation. The alternative involves heavy braking as they are at 10mph from their turn, and often the NS lane is busy.
A lot of delivery vans seem to use the procedure described.
My final thought is that, if I have moved left to undertake, and been hit by the turning vehicle itself pulling left, I don`t think I`d be in a strong position in court.
Any ideas as to best options please?
That looks like the Castle Howard turn off? There is or used to be a parcel delivery depot (DPD?) which you can see on the image above.
It's a difficult junction to negociate (especially when busy). You should always join and move into the left hand lane. All I can advise is either wait for a bigger gap or get a faster car!!
I do know of someone who actually turned onto and began to go down the dual carriageway the wrong way one evening there!
It's a difficult junction to negociate (especially when busy). You should always join and move into the left hand lane. All I can advise is either wait for a bigger gap or get a faster car!!
I do know of someone who actually turned onto and began to go down the dual carriageway the wrong way one evening there!
Edited by IAM Joe on Saturday 26th June 22:08
i dislike that junction a lot. I tend to use either lane for acceleration depending on where the traffic is and what speed it is doing, in order to leave myself as much distance/time for acceleration as possible. Once I'm up to speed obviously I will move into the inside lane if I am not already in it and don't want to pass anything ahead.
I have seen this behaviour before and it always strikes fear when you see it happen.
I can't imagine what posses someone to turn right and pull into the outside lane to do their accelerating. Clearly there is not enough space to pull into properly and the approaching traffic is left in the position of closing on a near stationary vehicle with no real way of knowing which way the vehicle is going to go.
It is not suprising that a lot of accidents happen at these locations and this why they are getting closed down.
I can't imagine what posses someone to turn right and pull into the outside lane to do their accelerating. Clearly there is not enough space to pull into properly and the approaching traffic is left in the position of closing on a near stationary vehicle with no real way of knowing which way the vehicle is going to go.
It is not suprising that a lot of accidents happen at these locations and this why they are getting closed down.
not a nice situation to suddenly find yourself in at all.Don't know the area, but if I saw a vehicle waiting in the central area, I might be tempted (traffic conditions permitting) to take lane 2 on approach, if he then has time to get to lane 1 then great, if he does not, seeing me in lane 2 might prevent him moving out.
But like i said, I don't know it, so this might not be practical.
But like i said, I don't know it, so this might not be practical.
supersport said:
I have seen this behaviour before and it always strikes fear when you see it happen.
I can't imagine what posses someone to turn right and pull into the outside lane to do their accelerating. Clearly there is not enough space to pull into properly and the approaching traffic is left in the position of closing on a near stationary vehicle with no real way of knowing which way the vehicle is going to go.
It is not suprising that a lot of accidents happen at these locations and this why they are getting closed down.
Going into the outside lane in that situation does mean that you don't have to drive across both lanes, which is in some ways desirable. It's still a terrible junction though. If there's enough traffic wanting to turn right to warrant a break in the central reservation, a roundabout would be much safer.I can't imagine what posses someone to turn right and pull into the outside lane to do their accelerating. Clearly there is not enough space to pull into properly and the approaching traffic is left in the position of closing on a near stationary vehicle with no real way of knowing which way the vehicle is going to go.
It is not suprising that a lot of accidents happen at these locations and this why they are getting closed down.
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