How did Advanced Driving attitudes help you today?
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I'll start.
Going nearside to help an overtaker.
Hanging back whilst those upfront attempted overtakes that meant those opposing had to slow.
Those upfront having, for miles, followed too close and missing true overtaking opportunities.
Not straightlining, without visibility, on a twisty section, unlike the opposing Transit, meaning, again, I could go nearside, providing room.
Well, Mr. and Mrs. WG are still alive.
Going nearside to help an overtaker.
Hanging back whilst those upfront attempted overtakes that meant those opposing had to slow.
Those upfront having, for miles, followed too close and missing true overtaking opportunities.
Not straightlining, without visibility, on a twisty section, unlike the opposing Transit, meaning, again, I could go nearside, providing room.
Well, Mr. and Mrs. WG are still alive.
In the Woking DC today (40 limit, trafficy), was in L2 behind a scruffy car. In L1 was traffic-plod 5-series. Scruffy sat just about in plod's blind spot for a couple of hundred yards. Got to the roundabout at the end. L1 for exit 1, L2 for exit 2. Was going to pull alongside plod to enter the roundabout (as scruffy had gone on), but plod-car's body language told me otherwise. we enter roundabout slightly staggered, for plod to change his mind and go right to exit 2.
He then pulled scruffy (no insurance I'm guessing) and I felt smug for being aware of the possibilities!
Bert
He then pulled scruffy (no insurance I'm guessing) and I felt smug for being aware of the possibilities!
Bert
Not much Im afraid.
If I may I Lost my rag this morning coming down an NSL country lane on a straight with a junction in front of me around 1000yds away on my side of the road.Im travelling at 50 to 60 and the Golf waiting at that junction decides to pull out.No problem I see her in plenty of time but does she speed away or get up to a speed more suited to the speed limit.Nope she crawls out and maintains 29 to 30mph.Im stuck as there are a series of blind bends ahead and no possibility to pass.I am ashamed to say that I became very angry and aggressively tailgated her until calming down.Sorry just a rant at myself for losing it.I certainly wasnt displaying an Advanced driving attitude.
If I may I Lost my rag this morning coming down an NSL country lane on a straight with a junction in front of me around 1000yds away on my side of the road.Im travelling at 50 to 60 and the Golf waiting at that junction decides to pull out.No problem I see her in plenty of time but does she speed away or get up to a speed more suited to the speed limit.Nope she crawls out and maintains 29 to 30mph.Im stuck as there are a series of blind bends ahead and no possibility to pass.I am ashamed to say that I became very angry and aggressively tailgated her until calming down.Sorry just a rant at myself for losing it.I certainly wasnt displaying an Advanced driving attitude.
At least you're honest about it. Holier than tho attitudes from advanced drivers do more harm than good to those they're trying to convert.
Today, its done nothing for me, but it wasn't so long ago that a mirror check prior to braking reasonably firmly saved me from digging an idiot out of my rear bumper.
Today, its done nothing for me, but it wasn't so long ago that a mirror check prior to braking reasonably firmly saved me from digging an idiot out of my rear bumper.
fwaggie said:
Sorry but everything mentioned in this thread so far is just "common sense", not "Advanced Driving".
Some, yes, some, no. Advanced driving systemises common sense, rather than leaving it to individuals with different amounts of common sense. Such as me, who prior to learning, "the system" wouldn't have thought twice about breaking reasonably firmly when approaching a changing traffic light without a mirror check. And would have been 100% in the right if said car had gone up my backside...but still had the inconvenience of being crashed into.
t grips (you grab hold and yell "shiiiiiiittt") or feel mildly queasy after being thrown around in my seat.
BertBert said:
tenohfive said:
Holier than tho attitudes from advanced drivers do more harm than good to those they're trying to convert.
Rubbish. I am a driving God and all the lesser drivers would be well advised to take note. 
Bert
Well I consider Advanced Driving to be mainly common sense but also realising when you've made a mistake - I don't care how much training anyone has had, we all make errors. And the ones that consider themselves "great drivers" usually aren't.
I took it a stage further and did a Police driving course - this genuinely taught me several new things and was one of the best things I've ever done in a car. Demanding but very rewarding. The instructor's observed run was inspirational.
I'd say applying the principles of IAM and being of the mindset that you always need to learn, not only makes driving more interesting, it makes it much safer.
Driving for 20,30,40 years (ahem taxi drivers) does not make you a good driver.
I took it a stage further and did a Police driving course - this genuinely taught me several new things and was one of the best things I've ever done in a car. Demanding but very rewarding. The instructor's observed run was inspirational.
I'd say applying the principles of IAM and being of the mindset that you always need to learn, not only makes driving more interesting, it makes it much safer.
Driving for 20,30,40 years (ahem taxi drivers) does not make you a good driver.
335Diesel said:
I'd say applying the principles of IAM and being of the mindset that you always need to learn, not only makes driving more interesting, it makes it much safer.
There's always more to know. One can always learn something new and useful.335Diesel said:
Driving for 20,30,40 years (ahem taxi drivers) does not make you a good driver.
It's like Golf. You can spend years practicing the wrong things...How did Advanced Driving attitudes help you today?
Same as it does every day, now that I've had the benefit of five years associating with you lot; oh, and ADUK.
It gives me that warm glow of superiority over almost all other road users, as I motor serenely around exuding this aura of expertise and finesse and general goodwill. OTOH the 'aura' might be down to my high consumption of cabbage, sprouts and baked beans.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
Same as it does every day, now that I've had the benefit of five years associating with you lot; oh, and ADUK.
It gives me that warm glow of superiority over almost all other road users, as I motor serenely around exuding this aura of expertise and finesse and general goodwill. OTOH the 'aura' might be down to my high consumption of cabbage, sprouts and baked beans.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
7db said:
Are there only 21 months in 5 years?
No, but due to a technical foul-up at PH HQ (which they've never bothered to correct for me) I got shut out and had to sneak back in as p1esk, rather than continue as TripleS in which guise I originally joined in February 2004.I trust that answers the question to my learned friend's satisfaction.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
Edited by p1esk on Saturday 26th September 17:28
How did Advanced Driving attitudes help you today?
AD attitudes told me not to drive today: my right eye is leaking! (There was something stuck in it last night but it is still leaking, causing my vision in that eye to be frequently blurred until I remove the leakage! Not conducive for good driving, in my humble and leaky opinion.
AD attitudes told me not to drive today: my right eye is leaking! (There was something stuck in it last night but it is still leaking, causing my vision in that eye to be frequently blurred until I remove the leakage! Not conducive for good driving, in my humble and leaky opinion.
tenohfive said:
fwaggie said:
Sorry but everything mentioned in this thread so far is just "common sense", not "Advanced Driving".
Some, yes, some, no. Advanced driving systemises common sense, rather than leaving it to individuals with different amounts of common sense. Such as me, who prior to learning, "the system" wouldn't have thought twice about breaking reasonably firmly when approaching a changing traffic light without a mirror check. And would have been 100% in the right if said car had gone up my backside...but still had the inconvenience of being crashed into.There is nothing 'advanced' about carrying out simple observation before braking.
That is a requirement to meet the standards for your 'basic' test.
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