what to do when you know your absolutely ****

[torquematters]

ok, so you've just realised you've entered a corner way too fast (on a track of course)

If you lift off the throttle quickly and then brake you will get loads of lift off oversteer then spin off and die.

But if you turn in more then you will understeer off (and die)

so what is the best approach to maintain stability and get round the corner after this stage?

no silly answers like "slow down" or "brake earlier".

[vonhosen]

It'll depend on the circumstances & there are so many permutations , but you can't defy physics.

[EvilChap]

You come off the throttle gently and progressively, and get on the brakes in the same manor, while turning in gently, obviously with a feel for the grip, balance and speed of the car, and with a view to where you want to be in relation to the corner.

It's all about smooth, gentle controls to keep the car balanced, so you can keep control.

If you have the advantage of sophisticated ABS, TCS, ASC etc etc etc then life will be easier, but the basics are the same.

[Don]

Rely on the PSM to dig you out of the hole you just made?

[johnthesifu]

when you say too fast how fast is fast? you cant expect to do something if your entering a corner 3 times the speed of its approachable speed. lift of oversteer and some dori dori isnt considered not stable if its 100% undercontrol is it? if it is, the only solution is to jam the brakes as mentioned - no other choice.

[Colonial]

I remember some great advice I had from an instructor.

When you are spinning/out of control don't try and be clever about things. Just brake hard.

[WhoseGeneration]

torquematters said:

ok, so you've just realised you've entered a corner way too fast (on a track of course)

If you lift off the throttle quickly and then brake you will get loads of lift off oversteer then spin off and die.

But if you turn in more then you will understeer off (and die)

so what is the best approach to maintain stability and get round the corner after this stage?

no silly answers like "slow down" or "brake earlier".

Depends upon which track and where on that track.
Cadwell or Silverstone GP and which corner on each, for example.

[erdnase]

vonhosen said:

..but you can't defy physics.

Such a defeatist attitude there.

[GravelBen]

Some situations you can compromise your line to give more braking space before you have to turn in. Obviously this will affect your exit speed and positioning for the next corner, but not as much as falling off the track would.

If you're good enough you'll be able to balance the car right on the very edge and get round the corner one way or another. But if you have to think about what to do rather than acting instinctively then its probably too late anyway.

Edited by GravelBen on Tuesday 2nd June 07:11

[Mr POD]

Learn to drive fast in a slow car ? Everything happens in slow motion.

[Don]

Put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye.

[HereBeMonsters]

The trick is to balance the lift-off oversteer to counteract the understeer.

If you can do this properly you may be a driving god. I cannot.

[turbobloke]

Colonial said:

I remember some great advice I had from an instructor.

When you are spinning/out of control don't try and be clever about things. Just brake hard.

In a spin both feet in.

[GravelBen]

turbobloke said:

Colonial said:

I remember some great advice I had from an instructor.

When you are spinning/out of control don't try and be clever about things. Just brake hard.

In a spin both feet in.

When in doubt, power out.


(thats the gravel version)

[turbobloke]

GravelBen said:

turbobloke said:

Colonial said:

I remember some great advice I had from an instructor.

When you are spinning/out of control don't try and be clever about things. Just brake hard.

In a spin both feet in.

When in doubt, power out.


(thats the gravel version)

I'll be sure to remember

[GravelBen]

Its the same when everything goes really properly pear-shaped though - try and scrub off as much speed as you can before potential impact.

[7db]

Aim for a soft bit of hedge, brake as hard as you can, pray that someone in Germany designed your car, turn in and deal with the skid.

[Don]

GravelBen said:

Its the same when everything goes really properly pear-shaped though - try and scrub off as much speed as you can before potential impact.

[Syd knee]

First question is it front or rear wheel drive. Once you are commited just believe in your tyres and be smooth. Look where you want the car to go, not at the tree you think it will hit. If it is understeering adding more steering will have no efect but taking some off will. Finaly if its all gone tits up let go of the steering wheel before it hits something.

[Tunku]

On NFS:HP2, I just hit the brakes and the throttle at the same time. Hit the Mercedes on your outside to keep you going round.