Anyone else had..........
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....more accidents since becoming an advanced driver than before?
I had a rabbit hop under my front wheel as I took a bend on my bike five years ago.
Became an Advanced driver (IAM member at least).
Hit head on by a car overtaking on a blind bend.
Hit the side of a car that pulled out of a petrol station without looking (foreign driver didn't look)
Hit the drivers side of a car that cut a corner.
Do people see the "IAM" badge on the front of my car and take aim or what?
If you've had similar results let me know.
I had a rabbit hop under my front wheel as I took a bend on my bike five years ago.
Became an Advanced driver (IAM member at least).
Hit head on by a car overtaking on a blind bend.
Hit the side of a car that pulled out of a petrol station without looking (foreign driver didn't look)
Hit the drivers side of a car that cut a corner.
Do people see the "IAM" badge on the front of my car and take aim or what?
If you've had similar results let me know.
Perhaps because anyone can put on a good act to pass a 35 minute test. The realy important bit is our attitude the rest of the time. Judging from this comment from your other thread:
"If the little tw@ were tailgating me I would have locked up writen both cars off and got every injury lawer for you vulture on his case and I drive a shed."
I think that point is lost on you (& imo observation, anticipation, not to mention positioning for safety)
"If the little tw@ were tailgating me I would have locked up writen both cars off and got every injury lawer for you vulture on his case and I drive a shed."
I think that point is lost on you (& imo observation, anticipation, not to mention positioning for safety)
So you haven't read my comments on the "little green book of biking" thread.
Obviously my attitude on the road has changed, I'm not a boy racer any more (never was really) and the comment about being on your best behavior for your test is right. That's why so many people either have an accident or get a ban within a year of passing their test let alone the IAM one.
The point I was trying make on M3 BLO thread was that the Police were all to happy to pull the car over for whatever reason but where were they when the very same car was being tailgated further up the road? I was "imagining" how frustrated I would be in the same situation and not stating what I would actually do under those circumstances. (I'd make a note of the number plate make model etc, get a Police friend to do a PNC check and take the little scrotes knees out with a twelve gague. Again I'm joking)
Being a biker I had a "well if I crash I'm dead" attitude. Four of my mates have proven that point. My hazard awareness is infinately more than somone who has a nice metal cage, seat belts, ABS, crumple zones, airbags and whatever else protecting them.
This thread is supposed to be a tongue in cheek assessment of what has happened since I became a IAM member and if anyone else has had similar experiences. Not an in depth Psycological profile of my previous additions to this site. but if you want to go there you'll need a tourch.
Obviously my attitude on the road has changed, I'm not a boy racer any more (never was really) and the comment about being on your best behavior for your test is right. That's why so many people either have an accident or get a ban within a year of passing their test let alone the IAM one.
The point I was trying make on M3 BLO thread was that the Police were all to happy to pull the car over for whatever reason but where were they when the very same car was being tailgated further up the road? I was "imagining" how frustrated I would be in the same situation and not stating what I would actually do under those circumstances. (I'd make a note of the number plate make model etc, get a Police friend to do a PNC check and take the little scrotes knees out with a twelve gague. Again I'm joking)
Being a biker I had a "well if I crash I'm dead" attitude. Four of my mates have proven that point. My hazard awareness is infinately more than somone who has a nice metal cage, seat belts, ABS, crumple zones, airbags and whatever else protecting them.
This thread is supposed to be a tongue in cheek assessment of what has happened since I became a IAM member and if anyone else has had similar experiences. Not an in depth Psycological profile of my previous additions to this site. but if you want to go there you'll need a tourch.
This might be completely wrong, but I think there may be some added risk to those who go the IAM/RoSPA route (for example) and start feeling under pressure to 'make progress' more than they have done previously. It might be perfectly OK done that way, but I prefer the scenario where the making of progress is based on a longer period of experience of doing that, i.e. steadily learning what works and what doesn't - without finding out about the latter the hard way; but then I would say that.
Better still is to add some IAM type traning on top of that, but that might not be easy to do for certain types of individual.
Even so, experince isn't everything. Some drivers can have immense experience in terms of years of driving and miles covered - and still not be very good, because they haven't taken much interest in it - whereas others, with less experience and less miles under their belts, might have natural talents that enable them to achieve excellent results with great reliability.
I still prefer the steady evolutionary approach, rather than crash courses.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
Better still is to add some IAM type traning on top of that, but that might not be easy to do for certain types of individual.
Even so, experince isn't everything. Some drivers can have immense experience in terms of years of driving and miles covered - and still not be very good, because they haven't taken much interest in it - whereas others, with less experience and less miles under their belts, might have natural talents that enable them to achieve excellent results with great reliability.
I still prefer the steady evolutionary approach, rather than crash courses.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
Robert060379 said:
. but if you want to go there you'll need a tourch.
Do they have them in Halfurds?
On a serious note, I remember reading the other thread regarding the M3, yes of course the Astra was being driven by a tw-t & yes they always seem to get away with it. Let's face it tomorrow you will witness some other idiot on the road, that's life. Personally I prefer to distance myself from them at the earliest opportunity & then forget them. To dwell on the actions of others means only we suffer, it affects our attitude at the time & can only lead to errors/ bad judgements / stress. The important thing to think about regarding the incidents you have been involved in is; what could you do in the future to lessen the chances of them happening again? (Forget blame it's irrelevant).
On average in the U.K a driver is involved in or party to an accident every 3000 miles. So the four accidents I've had and the five I have been involved in so far actually mean I'm well below average considering I drive 150-200 miles a day to work.
Makes me wonder though. Some old boy was in the papers last year for clocking up 1,000,000 miles in his Volvo. So some poor sod has been involved in an accident every 333 miles to even that out. Probably an Ambulance Tech' or Paramedic.
Makes me wonder though. Some old boy was in the papers last year for clocking up 1,000,000 miles in his Volvo. So some poor sod has been involved in an accident every 333 miles to even that out. Probably an Ambulance Tech' or Paramedic.
Robert060379 said:
On average in the U.K a driver is involved in or party to an accident every 3000 miles. So the four accidents I've had and the five I have been involved in so far actually mean I'm well below average considering I drive 150-200 miles a day to work.
Makes me wonder though. Some old boy was in the papers last year for clocking up 1,000,000 miles in his Volvo. So some poor sod has been involved in an accident every 333 miles to even that out. Probably an Ambulance Tech' or Paramedic.
On average, a statistic is made up somewhere, by someone every 5 minutes. Therefore someone somewhere is making up a hell of a lot of statistics because this is the only one I've made up todayMakes me wonder though. Some old boy was in the papers last year for clocking up 1,000,000 miles in his Volvo. So some poor sod has been involved in an accident every 333 miles to even that out. Probably an Ambulance Tech' or Paramedic.
7db said:
Robert060379 said:
Not an in depth Psycological profile of my previous additions to this site. but if you want to go there you'll need a tourch.
and a dictionary, no doubt. Perhaps a Mod can move this to a better forum. 
Along with a lot of the OPs other posts
I seem to be going through a phase !
High miles, no problems for years, then last year I pile one myself, and earlier this year I'm accused of another (still not sorted yet)
In response to the "gist" of the original post (I think), after advanced training (IAM in my case), I stopped having near misses, in my case the course really did teach me to look further than my bonnet.
High miles, no problems for years, then last year I pile one myself, and earlier this year I'm accused of another (still not sorted yet)
In response to the "gist" of the original post (I think), after advanced training (IAM in my case), I stopped having near misses, in my case the course really did teach me to look further than my bonnet.
waremark said:
p1esk said:
I still prefer the steady evolutionary approach, rather than crash courses.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
Not crashing courses worked for me: both helped me not to crash, and to enjoy my driving (even) more.Best wishes all,
Dave.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
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