Former bad lad

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Dr Jekyll

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23,820 posts

267 months

Friday 22nd May 2009
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A neighour of mine was asking me about Advanced driving courses (I admitted to being an IAM member some months back). However, he has about 3 points on his licence and had a lengthy ban some years ago. I don't know the details because he seems distinctly embarrassed by whatever it was.

Judging from his driving he is a reformed character but would the ban in particular permanently prevent him joining IAM, ROSPA etc? Or will it eventually be regarded as irrelevant if he can maintain a clean licence in future?

I suggested a course with someone like Ride Drive but he prefers the idea of joining an organisation to give him more incentive to maintain his standard.

7mike

3,075 posts

199 months

Friday 22nd May 2009
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OP all credit to your friend for recognising that he, like all of us can improve. I don't see why past driving history should bar anyone from taking any advanced test. A call to the secretaries of your local groups should confirm if there are any problems.

LaSarthe+Back

2,084 posts

219 months

Saturday 23rd May 2009
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No, there should not be any problems at all.

If anything, it is this type of group which any advanced course stands to help the most!

Speed_Demon

2,662 posts

194 months

Saturday 23rd May 2009
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Don't forget to tell him that if he doesn't like an observer he can always change! People seem to get disheartened when they get an observer they don't like and don't realise they can have another.

p1esk

4,914 posts

202 months

Saturday 23rd May 2009
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The IAM should not be excluding anybody, but they might find some Associates a bit tricky, for one reason or another. Being able to really help somebody with a bad previous record should be all the more satisfying.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

dhutch

15,085 posts

203 months

Saturday 23rd May 2009
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p1esk said:
The IAM should not be excluding anybody, but they might find some Associates a bit tricky, for one reason or another. Being able to really help somebody with a bad previous record should be all the more satisfying.

Best wishes all,
Dave.
According to the IAM book (which having joined a few weeks ago ive just been reading) you cannot take the test with 7 or more points. Although you may begin training with them, taking the test after they have lapsed.


Daniel

p1esk

4,914 posts

202 months

Saturday 23rd May 2009
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dhutch said:
p1esk said:
The IAM should not be excluding anybody, but they might find some Associates a bit tricky, for one reason or another. Being able to really help somebody with a bad previous record should be all the more satisfying.

Best wishes all,
Dave.
According to the IAM book (which having joined a few weeks ago ive just been reading) you cannot take the test with 7 or more points. Although you may begin training with them, taking the test after they have lapsed.

Daniel
OK, so such a person would not be totally excluded, but might have to delay taking the test. I was objecting to the idea of total exclusion.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

1950trevorP

117 posts

218 months

Saturday 23rd May 2009
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Dave, I am sure the IAM would be really interested in your ideas about what they should be doing - why don't you write to them and tell them?

You appear to be keen on telling everyone else.


p1esk

4,914 posts

202 months

Saturday 23rd May 2009
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1950trevorP said:
Dave, I am sure the IAM would be really interested in your ideas about what they should be doing - why don't you write to them and tell them?

You appear to be keen on telling everyone else.
Oops. So, not pals again! frown

Anyhow, to answer your question: I don't see the need. They can read it here, and in any case my comments are not (as you seem to imply) always critical. I try to give credit where it is due.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

Colonial

13,553 posts

211 months

Wednesday 27th May 2009
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1950trevorP said:
Dave, I am sure the IAM would be really interested in your ideas about what they should be doing - why don't you write to them and tell them?

You appear to be keen on telling everyone else.
Wow.

As a casual observer who has no idea of any previous run ins between the two of you, it appears as though you are a very petty and vindictive man with a chip in his shoulder.

Daves point appeared valid and was well expressed.

p1esk

4,914 posts

202 months

Wednesday 27th May 2009
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Colonial said:
1950trevorP said:
Dave, I am sure the IAM would be really interested in your ideas about what they should be doing - why don't you write to them and tell them?

You appear to be keen on telling everyone else.
Wow.

As a casual observer who has no idea of any previous run ins between the two of you, it appears as though you are a very petty and vindictive man with a chip in his shoulder.

Daves point appeared valid and was well expressed.
Thanks, Andrew. It's just that Trevor has a style that gets on my tits at times, and I seem to have a similar effect on him. It's no more serious than that. cool

Best wishes all,
Dave.

Mill Wheel

6,149 posts

202 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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How is IAM assessment run? Would it be accessible to somebody who works long hours, and has family commitments, or is it something you could do within a fortnights holiday?

7mike

3,075 posts

199 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Mill Wheel said:
How is IAM assessment run? Would it be accessible to somebody who works long hours, and has family commitments, or is it something you could do within a fortnights holiday?
Best thing to do is to look up your local group's contact details from the IAM website & have a chat with the club secretary. I have found that some groups (IAM & RoSPA) are quite flexible when linking you up with an observer/tutor so that you get together at mutualy convenient times. Others seem to prefer set times (10am Sunday morning at a particular pub car park sort of thing). There is always the option of paying for professional training & taking it at your convenience.