Innovation...

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BertBert

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19,534 posts

217 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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A thought struck with the thread on cruise control. There is clearly a lot of innovation in the car itself, but this pretty much stops at the control interface with the driver.

So the question is, is there any innovation happening, or research occuring regarding either the control interface of car, or more interesting to this forum perhaps, in the techniques and methods of driving itself?

There must be, surely? Who, what and where though?

Bert

vonhosen

40,425 posts

223 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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BertBert said:
A thought struck with the thread on cruise control. There is clearly a lot of innovation in the car itself, but this pretty much stops at the control interface with the driver.

So the question is, is there any innovation happening, or research occuring regarding either the control interface of car, or more interesting to this forum perhaps, in the techniques and methods of driving itself?

There must be, surely? Who, what and where though?

Bert
There is in respect of the learning process for paid teaching. Whilst not new itself it is gradually getting a wider audience.

BOF

991 posts

229 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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While being happy to promote and encourage the IAM...as the best and most economic way of getting into Roadcraft...I often feel that it is misunderstood as Degree standard...as opposed to 'O' levels.

As stated often, I encourage any Associate to go on to RoSPA...maybe not 'A' level??? but at least repeatable every three years.

I copy links to all of the specialist coaches on here and lend various DVDs to every associate to show them the "ladder".

One day the IAM will be the minimum standard to get a license...but I'm not holding my breath...

BOF.

Martin A

344 posts

249 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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BertBert said:
So the question is, is there any innovation happening, or research occuring regarding either the control interface of car, or more interesting to this forum perhaps, in the techniques and methods of driving itself?

There must be, surely? Who, what and where though?

Bert
Who? Me.

What? I have developed methods using NLP, operant conditioning and psycho-physiology for helping all sorts of drivers from Learners (complete novices to 'hopeless cases') to those on track. I also know a greater understanding of vehicle dynamics explained in a simple manner makes a great difference. By using this knowledge drivers are then able to develop their own flexible techniques for successful outcomes rather than follow what many believe to be pedantic control systems. This won't necessarily pass any Advanced tests but results in what I refer to as predictable safety. In my opinion the real test is everyday driving not a few hours to obtain a badge.

Where? Mainly in the South East but will travel.

I was originally inspired to develop my methods by Don Palmer through a chance telephone conversation about eight years ago.

HTH

Don't feel I should say too much more as I don't want to be seen to be advertising. If you need to know more perhaps a pm or call would be best.

Martin A

p1esk

4,914 posts

202 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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Martin A said:
I have developed methods using NLP, operant conditioning and psycho-physiology for helping all sorts of drivers from Learners (complete novices to 'hopeless cases') to those on track. I also know a greater understanding of vehicle dynamics explained in a simple manner makes a great difference. By using this knowledge drivers are then able to develop their own flexible techniques for successful outcomes rather than follow what many believe to be pedantic control systems. This won't necessarily pass any Advanced tests but results in what I refer to as predictable safety. In my opinion the real test is everyday driving not a few hours to obtain a badge.

Martin A
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Best wishes all,
Dave.

BOF

991 posts

229 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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". In my opinion the real test is everyday driving not a few hours to obtain a badge."

What you are doing is admirable - I have added your link to my contact pages of further education sources for my Associates.

However, in defence of the 'handing out badges brigade'...our mob just passed 800 IAM Test successes...all for under £100 for the Associates...zilch for the Observers.

Different strokes for different folks...?

BOF. :-;

7db

6,058 posts

236 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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How much. how much.

Martin A

344 posts

249 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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BOF said:
". In my opinion the real test is everyday driving not a few hours to obtain a badge."

What you are doing is admirable - I have added your link to my contact pages of further education sources for my Associates.

However, in defence of the 'handing out badges brigade'...our mob just passed 800 IAM Test successes...all for under £100 for the Associates...zilch for the Observers.

Different strokes for different folks...?

BOF. :-;
Thanks for the support. I applaud the work of RoSPA, the IAM and any other organisation that seeks to improve standards of driving. However I believe many systems are too prescriptive and stifle original thought. A view shared by many youngsters. Hence my own research and ideas on the subject.

As for costs, depends on time of year, day of the week etc but somewhere in the middle of the £25 per hour, that BSM will charge for an hour with a novice instructor who is not yet fully qualified, and the £75 you'd pay for an hour in a Black Cab from Heathrow to the Tower of London. Minimum of four hours.

Hope this helps.

Martin A