Ride Drive - 1 day or 2 half days?

Ride Drive - 1 day or 2 half days?

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thegreengoblet

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1,040 posts

222 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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Hi all

I've got a Ride Drive Road Day but I don't know whether or not to have a whole day or 2 half days?

Any advice?

BOF

991 posts

229 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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Maybe because I am a bit of a thicko...I would absorb more in the two half days than a full day.

I found the full day with John Lyon quite a lot to take in...a break between might give you some idea of what you need help with or what you want to improve?

BOF.

LordGrover

33,658 posts

218 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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I recently had my first half day and am planning to take the second half next month, about six weeks apart. It's giving me time to practice some of the skills/advice given so that I will spend less time in the second session concentrating on 'the basics' as they're slowly but surely becoming good 'habits'.

thegreengoblet

Original Poster:

1,040 posts

222 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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Thanks for the advice.

I reckon 2 half days is the way to go.

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SVS

3,824 posts

277 months

Saturday 20th September 2008
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BOF said:
I would absorb more in the two half days than a full day.
Me too. You'll definitely get a lot more out of two half days (for the reasons BOF mentions).

Whatever you do, enjoy the RideDrive course! RideDrive courses are great and I'm sure you'll have a brilliant time biggrin


Dolf

487 posts

219 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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Had a full day, a couple of months ago. Due to the amount of concentration required throughout, I would also go for the half day option next time.

Found muscles along the way that I hadn't used for a while yes

thegreengoblet

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1,040 posts

222 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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Had my first half day Saturday... excellent stuff. I must say that my concentration was going by the end - as well as my arms aching. Glad I only done 1/2 days. It's a real challenge trying to change what you've been doing for the last 20 years, with my single biggest issue being pull-push steering. So I wanted to know who has stuck with it - the steering that is?

StressedDave

841 posts

268 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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Sort of... I only use pull-push for manoeuvring. On the open road except for the tightest bends you probably won't need to pull-push and IME trying it tends to lead to over-steering. On tighter bends than I tend to take my hand beyond 12 o'clock and use a single pull to get the steering I need.

But at the end of the day, you aren't going for a particular advanced test, so I'd use whichever steering method works for you.

Martin A

344 posts

249 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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thegreengoblet said:
...It's a real challenge trying to change what you've been doing for the last 20 years, with my single biggest issue being pull-push steering. So I wanted to know who has stuck with it - the steering that is?
As long as there is no compromise of control or safety I would go with whatever works for you. As a professional I would never seek to change a habit for it's own sake. No problem with introducing alternative techniques that allow the customer to make up their own mind and making them aware that anything new will initially feel 'wrong'.

If your steering control has not been compromised for 20 years in all situations (think back hard now)then your current system is probably okay. If you deliberately change your style there is no problem with that either but be aware that in stressed situations (not that there should be any) you would be likely to return to your original style of action.

The automatic returning to original learning in stressed situations is one reason why courses in skid control are not so valuable as those that deal with skid awareness. With the former, over optimistic belief in one's car control can lead to problems, (Raikonnen at Spa this year, and he must have expected grip problems). With the latter, the realisation of just how much space is needed to sort things out when they go wrong at speed can be a better lesson in self and car preservation.

HTH

Regards

Martin A

thegreengoblet

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1,040 posts

222 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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Top advice guys.

As you say Martin, when I got into a panic I resorted to my old steering methods - even on the day. It's nice to have someone review your techniques to make you a safer driver, but they are just suggestions. So I guess I'm going to steer the way I always have. Everything else will be taken on-board though.

It was interesting because at one point on the day I had a really strange feeling. I couldn't describe it to my instructor but he hit the nail on the head - I WAS driving. Everything was working, my mind was 100% focussed on driving and making progress - I was in the zone! And what a feeling it was too. I'd recommend the course to anyone.

Dolf

487 posts

219 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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thegreengoblet said:
Had my first half day Saturday... excellent stuff. I must say that my concentration was going by the end - as well as my arms aching. Glad I only done 1/2 days. It's a real challenge trying to change what you've been doing for the last 20 years, with my single biggest issue being pull-push steering. So I wanted to know who has stuck with it - the steering that is?
For me, it depends on the type of car and the speed I am doing at the time. I tend to use pull-push at lower speeds and larger cars. But I am quite happy to "mix 'n match" depending on the circumstances - it is what works better for me and what I am comfortable with.