coming out of junctions

coming out of junctions

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moanthebairns

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18,125 posts

204 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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This is one I need help with badly.
An example I hate is a T junction where I have to give way. As I look to my right I see cars parked all the way to the opening, very poor visibilty. Same to my left hand side.

What I tend to do is edge forward slowely as far as I can without being in the middle of the road while checking for lights/cars.

In cases where I have stevie wonder visabillty, I mute my music and pull down the window to try and hear. However bloody aygos etc are really bloody hard to hear sometimes!

Is there anything else I can do to avoid pulling out infront of someone?

crisisjez

9,209 posts

211 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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moanthebairns said:
This is one I need help with badly.
An example I hate is a T junction where I have to give way. As I look to my right I see cars parked all the way to the opening, very poor visibilty. Same to my left hand side.

What I tend to do is edge forward slowely as far as I can without being in the middle of the road while checking for lights/cars.

In cases where I have stevie wonder visabillty, I mute my music and pull down the window to try and hear. However bloody aygos etc are really bloody hard to hear sometimes!

Is there anything else I can do to avoid pulling out infront of someone?
If it`s happening that often its obviously on a regular route you use.

Have you considered re routing to avoid the hazard as you`ll always be exposed in the situation you describe regardless of how much care you take.

Edited by crisisjez on Wednesday 2nd July 13:38

moanthebairns

Original Poster:

18,125 posts

204 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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crisisjez said:
moanthebairns said:
This is one I need help with badly.
An example I hate is a T junction where I have to give way. As I look to my right I see cars parked all the way to the opening, very poor visibilty. Same to my left hand side.

What I tend to do is edge forward slowely as far as I can without being in the middle of the road while checking for lights/cars.

In cases where I have stevie wonder visabillty, I mute my music and pull down the window to try and hear. However bloody aygos etc are really bloody hard to hear sometimes!

Is there anything else I can do to avoid pulling out infront of someone?
If it`s happening that often its obviously on a regular route you use.

Have you considered re routing to avoid the hazard as you`ll always be exposed in the situation you describe regardless of how much care you take.

Edited by crisisjez on Wednesday 2nd July 13:38
Cant re route sadly. I thought the highway code stated you couldnt park within x amouth of metres of a T junction!

7db

6,058 posts

236 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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peep and creep

tvrgit

8,473 posts

258 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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moanthebairns said:
I thought the highway code stated you couldnt park within x amouth of metres of a T junction!
Only if you're parking a car unlit at night in a built up area.

BOF

991 posts

229 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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7db said:
peep and creep
New one to add to my notes - Thanks!

BOF.

killinginblack

250 posts

203 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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7db said:
peep and creep
yes

thats what i was taught, its kept my nose clean for over half a decade.

Sharief

6,404 posts

222 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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7db said:
peep and creep
Ah yes, my driver instructor's personal favourite.

Vaux

1,557 posts

222 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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tvrgit said:
moanthebairns said:
I thought the highway code stated you couldnt park within x amouth of metres of a T junction!
Only if you're parking a car unlit at night in a built up area.
HC 243
DO NOT stop or park:
opposite or within 10 Metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space

Not a MUST NOT though.

RabD

222 posts

202 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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BOF said:
7db said:
peep and creep
New one to add to my notes - Thanks!
Not worth it. I got a restraining order against me for that. getmecoat


waremark

3,250 posts

219 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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Not convinced it is realistic to do more than you do and these options probably will not work for you but consider:

A warning - long lights or horn
Getting someone to help you out
Installing a mirror
Work out exactly how far out you can get while still leaving space for a vehicle to pass - once you reach that point stop creeping and go quickly

Meanwhile, you are certainly doing the best thing by opening the windows and listening.

HTH

tvrgit

8,473 posts

258 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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Vaux said:
tvrgit said:
moanthebairns said:
I thought the highway code stated you couldnt park within x amouth of metres of a T junction!
Only if you're parking a car unlit at night in a built up area.
HC 243
DO NOT stop or park:
opposite or within 10 Metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space

Not a MUST NOT though.
Yes you're right - during the day it's advice

at night, it's the law!!

moanthebairns

Original Poster:

18,125 posts

204 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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So bar flinging out small cars or dogs on to the road and listening to tyres screeching, which i have a feeling would cost me a bit after a while. There is very little I can do that I arent already doing.

neelyp

1,693 posts

217 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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What junctions are you talking about?
The worst one I can think off is the crossroads at the junction of Begg Avenue and Summerford Road. Coming out of Begg Avenue is a nightmare with it being uphill and the parked cars are all right in your line of sight.

moanthebairns

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18,125 posts

204 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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neelyp said:
What junctions are you talking about?
The worst one I can think off is the crossroads at the junction of Begg Avenue and Summerford Road. Coming out of Begg Avenue is a nightmare with it being uphill and the parked cars are all right in your line of sight.
that one is a pain! However its at Grangemouth across for the plant where the council offices are.

Vaux

1,557 posts

222 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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tvrgit said:
Vaux said:
tvrgit said:
moanthebairns said:
I thought the highway code stated you couldnt park within x amouth of metres of a T junction!
Only if you're parking a car unlit at night in a built up area.
HC 243
DO NOT stop or park:
opposite or within 10 Metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space

Not a MUST NOT though.
Yes you're right - during the day it's advice

at night, it's the law!!
Reading HC250 it talks about certain vehicles being able to park at night without lights on a 30mph road or less if they are at least 10M from any junction (paraphrased)
It then goes on to say "other vehicles and trailers, and all vehicles with projecting loads MUST NOT be left on a road at night without lights."
So, I'm thinking the MUST NOT is relating to the type of vehicle, rather than the 10M from a junction issue?

BOF

991 posts

229 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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Just noted the reference to Council Office...had a drive with a Trafpol some years ago who criticised some of the road markings...he frequently wrote to somewhere (Council? Highways Dept?) asking them to justify the markings and suggested I do the same...never have done this..but might be worth a thought if it really dangerous...get some yellow lines near the junctions?

BOF

havoc

30,717 posts

241 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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This is the same at the junction the wife and I (have to) use every morning - two busy residential 'main' roads meet at a T, locals park in-front of their houses right up to (usually) 2m before the junction on either side.

Worse - to the right, some chap owns a transit so that's usually there! It's a b'tch to get out of, quite frankly...and turning right tends to be a 'make sure you're clear left, then creep while looking right'.

I'm not sure I WOULD use the horn though as that tends to get interpreted the wrong way by most road users nowadays, and in a sports car you're esp. likely to have people take umbrage. But it's an interesting idea...