WHEEL SPIN or BURNOUTS...can anyone help?

[Muzzer1991]

I'm a pretti new driver, but have got to the point where i want to try some new stuff in my car because normal driving has got boring. I have heard a lot about wheel spin and burnouts, but dont want to try without knowing how to do it properley without damaging the clutch and car in general. Can anyone help?

[Slinky]

Are you doing this for drag racing purposes, or just behaving like a cock in halfords car park?
sorry, I forgot, I'm not supposed to feed the trolls am I

Edited by Slinky on Thursday 12th June 19:59

[Muzzer1991]

i do love drag racing and would love to try one day, but ive only bin driving since end of april, so more likely to do it on my own..you must have had that experimental feeling at sum point?!

[GreenV8S]

Muzzer1991 said:

I'm a pretti new driver, but have got to the point where i want to try some new stuff in my car because normal driving has got boring.

That makes me suspect that you've stopped thinking about improving, which I'd suggest you should always be aiming to do.

[mc_conor]

I believe you are the reason why my premium is 3k this year.

Everyone here will just take the p*ss out of you because if you put 2+2 together your name indicates you are 17 and are looking to impress your mates/ girl with burnin rubber.

Search on youtube or something, don't f*cking crash i don't want to be able to only insure 1.8s until im bald.

Pull some handbrakes.

Edited by mc_conor on Thursday 12th June 22:09

[mph999]

Muzzer1991 said:

I'm a pretti new driver, but have got to the point where i want to try some new stuff in my car because normal driving has got boring. I have heard a lot about wheel spin and burnouts, but dont want to try without knowing how to do it properley without damaging the clutch and car in general. Can anyone help?

The truth is you can't do it, without putting a massive strain on the car, very likely to break it in an expensive way.

Gearbox could go
Clutch
Driveshafts
Tyres

Non of these are particularly cheap to fix ...

Martin

[ChristianZS]

A few moons ago when I were 18. I tried a full-bore standing start on the local highstreet, On a Sunday evening with everyone out as it were bank holiday the next day. It ended like this



Dont even bother.. Cost`s you in new alloys when the driveshaft/cv joint carries on through the wheels and generally makes a mess.

God I were an arse then... Its not big nor clever

Edited by ChristianZS on Thursday 12th June 22:51

[Muzzer1991]

fair enough guys, im not like all the pikeys tho, i dont do it to impress, i jus love cars and now that im finally at the age i can legally drive, there is so much stuff i want to do that i have always watched on tv

[ChristianZS]

Muzzer1991 said:

fair enough guys, im not like all the pikeys tho, i dont do it to impress, i jus love cars and now that im finally at the age i can legally drive, there is so much stuff i want to do that i have always watched on tv

Well love your car by keeping the thing on the road and not in the garage!

Carry on watching it on TV and let those buggers pay for new tyres!

[Wattsie]

ChristianZS said:

A few moons ago when I were 18. I tried a full-bore standing start on the local highstreet, On a Sunday evening with everyone out as it were bank holiday the next day. It ended like this



Dont even bother.. Cost`s you in new alloys when the driveshaft/cv joint carries on through the wheels and generally makes a mess.

God I were an arse then... Its not big nor clever

Edited by ChristianZS on Thursday 12th June 22:51

Ooohh... The springs collapsed?

[ChristianZS]

Wattsie said:

ChristianZS said:

A few moons ago when I were 18. I tried a full-bore standing start on the local highstreet, On a Sunday evening with everyone out as it were bank holiday the next day. It ended like this



Dont even bother.. Cost`s you in new alloys when the driveshaft/cv joint carries on through the wheels and generally makes a mess.

God I were an arse then... Its not big nor clever

Edited by ChristianZS on Thursday 12th June 22:51

Ooohh... The springs collapsed?

Nah, Bent drivers side alloy and popped tyre..

Also when they yanked it up on the truck they really pulled the front end down with the winch. The tyres were pushing up the arches :|

[Alex]

Muzzer1991 said:

I'm a pretti new driver, but have got to the point where i want to try some new stuff in my car because normal driving has got boring. I have heard a lot about wheel spin and burnouts, but dont want to try without knowing how to do it properley without damaging the clutch and car in general. Can anyone help?

Book yourself on a trackday, get an instructor, and learn how to really drive.

[waremark]

Learn how to be a better safer driver on the road: ask someone to give you a gift of a day with Cadence, Bespoke or Ridedrive. You will have fun, and if you practise what you are taught you will be safer, quicker and enjoy your driving more afterwards.

For a cheaper but less fun intro to better driving, do the IAM 'Skill for Life' course.

Track driving experience without Advanced Road Driving skills tends to equal loss of no claims bonus, or worse.

[Alex]

Do the IAM still advocate "push-pull" steering?

[waremark]

Alex said:

Do the IAM still advocate "push-pull" steering?

Or rather Pull-Push. Yes, but perhaps not as pedantically as you might think. All examiners are police advanced drivers, and so were initially trained to fairly rigid use of Pull-Push. However, even the police driving schools have become a bit more flexible. Most examiners now would be quite happy with starting a long pull from beyond 12.00, and with use of fixed grip for up to 90 degrees of rotation. They would not like to see you habitually steering with one hand, using fixed grip for 190 degrees of rotation, or using hand over hand movements other than at low speed.

What they are really looking for is safe smooth control of the wheel.

[Chris71]

Just so you know gents, I think you're being wound up.

[anonymous-user]

Any IAM members in Surrey willing to offer our new friend a demo drive?

[Alex]

waremark said:

Alex said:

Do the IAM still advocate "push-pull" steering?

Or rather Pull-Push. Yes, but perhaps not as pedantically as you might think. All examiners are police advanced drivers, and so were initially trained to fairly rigid use of Pull-Push. However, even the police driving schools have become a bit more flexible. Most examiners now would be quite happy with starting a long pull from beyond 12.00, and with use of fixed grip for up to 90 degrees of rotation. They would not like to see you habitually steering with one hand, using fixed grip for 190 degrees of rotation, or using hand over hand movements other than at low speed.

What they are really looking for is safe smooth control of the wheel.

Hmm, I've always had a problem with this technique. I prefer to keep my hands on the wheel at "10 to 2" or "quarter to 3" even if it means crossing my arms a bit.

That way I know where straight-ahead is when I need to apply opposite lock...

[Distant]

Muzzer1991 said:

I'm a pretti new driver

Do you mean you are pretty new to driving, or a pretty driver? My response will differ enourmously depending on the reply.

[RT106]

Alex said:

Hmm, I've always had a problem with this technique. I prefer to keep my hands on the wheel at "10 to 2" or "quarter to 3" even if it means crossing my arms a bit.

That way I know where straight-ahead is when I need to apply opposite lock...

Yes, but watch any properly advanced driver (try Sebastian Loeb, Ari Vatanen, Colin McRae etc) and you'll notice they 'pull and push' which perhaps renders your technique a little bit amateurish. Trust me; I've been there, done that, and won the plastic trophies after adopting the correct technique.

Edit: To the OP, how about joining your local motor club and doing some autotests and the like. Great fun, very cheap, and very useful in teaching the basics of car control in a controlled environment.

Edited by RT106 on Friday 13th June 13:44