slip lanes and idiots who muscle on

[Engineer1]

Virtually every week on my commute to work i will experience an impatient driver who wants to muscle into the space i am in.
I work in Stoke on Trent and for those who know the area i join the A500 at M6 junction 15 and leave the A500 at the junction with the A527, now to leave at this junction you have to get into the inside lane of the A500 early as the sliproad off practically overlaps the entrance sliproad for the Wolstanton Asda, so i normally get into the inside lane before the previous junction, this is where the problems generally happen with the outside lane nose to tail and someone muscling into the space i am in, i.e. they have not chosen to fit in in front or behind me but exactly where i am. what is the best way to combat this?

[VictorMeldrew]

Take a chill pill?

[Engineer1]

what when they very nearly side swipe me or force me into cars in the outside lane?

[rasputin]

I definitely think you should hold your ground and let them go into you. It'll be their fault when an accident happens, not yours, so you have nothing to worry about!

Under no circumstances should you consider easing off, accelerating, or moving into lane 2 when you predict something like this may happen. It's not your fault, it's theirs, so why should you have to do anything!?

Alternatively, I would also recommend a chill pill prescription

[p1esk]

Try to create a bit more space, leave a bigger gap in front of yourself and let them in. I would have thought most people would accept that, rather than drive into the side of you.

You should have priority, and it is up to the joiners to get in safely, but it's best all round if you can adjust things to make it easy for them. You may also find it makes things less stressful for yourself.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

Edited by p1esk on Wednesday 23 April 13:45

[jamesgrrr]

weld a nice big metal bar on to the side of your car to prevent damage to it then ram them.

[stefan1]

Engineer1 said:

Virtually every week on my commute to work i will experience an impatient driver who wants to muscle into the space i am in.
I work in Stoke on Trent and for those who know the area i join the A500 at M6 junction 15 and leave the A500 at the junction with the A527, now to leave at this junction you have to get into the inside lane of the A500 early as the sliproad off practically overlaps the entrance sliproad for the Wolstanton Asda, so i normally get into the inside lane before the previous junction, this is where the problems generally happen with the outside lane nose to tail and someone muscling into the space i am in, i.e. they have not chosen to fit in in front or behind me but exactly where i am. what is the best way to combat this?

If this regularly happens, I would suggest anticipate it, watch for the drivers who may want to come across and give them room to do so. They may not be driving well, but at least you are conrolling the situation by creating space and whilst you might have a quiet "tut" to yourself, I suspect your blood pressure will stay lower than if you get worked up about the inevitable. This approach is clearly safer than trying to stand your ground, which you may well feel entitled to do, but which will just lead to someone giving way at the last minute and with less control and planning.

Kind regards

Steve

[fatjon]

And of course the guy trying to get on the Mway is probably also thinking "why is this guy being a bombastic sod and doing his best to keep me from getting on". Are you sure thats not whats really happening. With a little use of the nearside mirror or a look over your shoulder you can see if someone is likely to trying to join in your immediate vicinity and then with a tiny little change of speed over a few tens of yards you can show some consideration by making room for them rather than thinking that having priority (which you of course do) means that you are no longer required to show understanding and courtesy.

[Engineer1]

the problem is the special stoke edition of the highway code where the car in front of you will slam the anchors on to allow a car on from the slip road, or the guy who needs to join infront of you not in the large space behind because then he would have had to think or do something to match his speed to that of the road.

[alphadog]

p1esk said:

Try to create a bit more space, leave a bigger gap in front of yourself and let them in. I would have thought most people would accept that, rather than drive into the side of you.

You should have priority, and it is up to the joiners to get in safely, but it's best all round if you can adjust things to make it easy for them. You may also find it makes things less stressful for yourself.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

It seems that people like us who help other road users joining from a slip road either by creating a space or by moving out a lane are a dying breed

Doing this has a beneficial effect on congestion as well

Edited by alphadog on Wednesday 23 April 14:00

[p1esk]

alphadog said:

p1esk said:

Try to create a bit more space, leave a bigger gap in front of yourself and let them in. I would have thought most people would accept that, rather than drive into the side of you.

You should have priority, and it is up to the joiners to get in safely, but it's best all round if you can adjust things to make it easy for them. You may also find it makes things less stressful for yourself.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

It seems that people like us who help other road users joining from a slip road either by creating a space or by moving out a lane are a dying breed

Doing this has a beneficial effect on congestion as well

Well I hope you're wrong about us being a dying breed. My observations suggest that there is a fair amount of tolerance and goodwill around, and I find that people do tend to pick up and copy good examples. I think there's still room for optimism.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

Edited by p1esk on Thursday 24th April 08:36

[alphadog]

Don't worry, my comment was directed to some of the less "accomodating" comments on this thread

[7db]

Help the other guy not to stuff up. It's that simple.

[brisel]

What he said.

Or, you could get a Land Rover. Or a big truck.

[Colonial]

Could always show some common courtesy and slow down a fraction, or is that to radical a concept?

Situation like that near me. If someone is coming up I'll slow down a little to let them in. If there is no one beside me I might even do something radical and move over a lane so they can safely merge.

[rasputin]

I find that 9 times out of 10 slowing down will just keep you alongside the "joiner", as most people are scared of hurting their accelerator pedal and so slow down.

The 1 time out of 10 when they do accelerate, it helps that my car is faster and in a lower gear

[King of Dings]

Engineer1 said:

Virtually every week on my commute to work i will experience an impatient driver who wants to muscle into the space i am in.
I work in Stoke on Trent and for those who know the area i join the A500 at M6 junction 15 and leave the A500 at the junction with the A527, now to leave at this junction you have to get into the inside lane of the A500 early as the sliproad off practically overlaps the entrance sliproad for the Wolstanton Asda, so i normally get into the inside lane before the previous junction, this is where the problems generally happen with the outside lane nose to tail and someone muscling into the space i am in, i.e. they have not chosen to fit in in front or behind me but exactly where i am. what is the best way to combat this?

You could always try being courteous and polite, let people in even !!

You’ll get the favour back 10 times over if you believe in Karma ?

And it’ll make for a much nice driver experience for everyone involved.

I’ve noted middle-aged blokes are the worst for letting people in / out 50-60 old.

[Danny189]

you should....hold you ground...get hit....Compensation!! then leave that evil job that makes you travel on that road! ...only joking lol

... you could either let them infront, or ignore them and carry on your drive like you never saw them...remember its your right of way at the end of the day.

[King of Dings]

Danny189 said:

you should....hold you ground...get hit....Compensation!! then leave that evil job that makes you travel on that road! ...only joking lol

... you could either let them infront, or ignore them and carry on your drive like you never saw them...remember its your right of way at the end of the day.

But it's not his right of way is it? Read the highway code again and see what they says about letting poeple in.

[7db]

King of Dings said:

Danny189 said:

you should....hold you ground...get hit....Compensation!! then leave that evil job that makes you travel on that road! ...only joking lol

... you could either let them infront, or ignore them and carry on your drive like you never saw them...remember its your right of way at the end of the day.

But it's not his right of way is it? Read the highway code again and see what they says about letting poeple in.

Read TSRGD and see what it says about crossing give-way lines.