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and possibly this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvXbmR1Rjv0
Had the tractor not cooperated, I'd have been inclined to hold back and pop into the Crab for a bite to eat...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvXbmR1Rjv0
Had the tractor not cooperated, I'd have been inclined to hold back and pop into the Crab for a bite to eat...
WilliBetz said:
and possibly this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvXbmR1Rjv0
Had the tractor not cooperated, I'd have been inclined to hold back and pop into the Crab for a bite to eat...
Liberal use of 2nd gear!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvXbmR1Rjv0
Had the tractor not cooperated, I'd have been inclined to hold back and pop into the Crab for a bite to eat...
Platinum said:
WilliBetz said:
and possibly this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvXbmR1Rjv0
Had the tractor not cooperated, I'd have been inclined to hold back and pop into the Crab for a bite to eat...
Liberal use of 2nd gear!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvXbmR1Rjv0
Had the tractor not cooperated, I'd have been inclined to hold back and pop into the Crab for a bite to eat...
Platinum said:
WilliBetz said:
and possibly this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvXbmR1Rjv0
Had the tractor not cooperated, I'd have been inclined to hold back and pop into the Crab for a bite to eat...
Liberal use of 2nd gear!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvXbmR1Rjv0
Had the tractor not cooperated, I'd have been inclined to hold back and pop into the Crab for a bite to eat...
In very high performance cars, on the road where mechanical and passenger symapthy are considerations, I often find lower gears a hindrance to progress.
Consider exiting an open roundabout or a bend (like those illustrated) in second gear, onto a reasonable straight. You need to pick up the throttle smoothly to avoid unsettling the car then - almost immediately - blend off the throttle to take third gear, then pick up the throttle smoothly again...
Then consider the same corner taken in third... Initial throttle application can be slightly firmer as the engine won't be as responsive at the lower engine speed. And there's no wasted time taking the higher gear...
That said, there may be good rationale for the driver's choice. He's clearly pretty classy behind the wheel...
Edited by WilliBetz on Monday 18th February 13:22
The use of lower gears may not always be a hindrance, even on 'performance' cars, it depends entirely on the type of engine and gearbox concerned.
We regularly used the 3.2 Omega with a spanish gearbox and they had overly long ( and poorly judged ) ratio's. 1st was good for 40, second for nearly 85. Roundabouts were usually second gear affairs as a result, third would be too far down the rev range and the car would bog down with little meaningful acceleration, that from a 150mph car. Then, when we changed to the volvo T5's, you had the benefit of forced induction with meant you didnt have to keep the engine on the boil so much and could rely on the different characteristics and use higher gears for similar pick up.
We regularly used the 3.2 Omega with a spanish gearbox and they had overly long ( and poorly judged ) ratio's. 1st was good for 40, second for nearly 85. Roundabouts were usually second gear affairs as a result, third would be too far down the rev range and the car would bog down with little meaningful acceleration, that from a 150mph car. Then, when we changed to the volvo T5's, you had the benefit of forced induction with meant you didnt have to keep the engine on the boil so much and could rely on the different characteristics and use higher gears for similar pick up.
wristy_mcgrew said:
The use of lower gears may not always be a hindrance, even on 'performance' cars, it depends entirely on the type of engine and gearbox concerned.
We regularly used the 3.2 Omega with a spanish gearbox and they had overly long ( and poorly judged ) ratio's. 1st was good for 40, second for nearly 85. Roundabouts were usually second gear affairs as a result, third would be too far down the rev range and the car would bog down with little meaningful acceleration, that from a 150mph car. Then, when we changed to the volvo T5's, you had the benefit of forced induction with meant you didnt have to keep the engine on the boil so much and could rely on the different characteristics and use higher gears for similar pick up.
A very fair point, though I'm not sure an Omega fitted my definition of very high performance We regularly used the 3.2 Omega with a spanish gearbox and they had overly long ( and poorly judged ) ratio's. 1st was good for 40, second for nearly 85. Roundabouts were usually second gear affairs as a result, third would be too far down the rev range and the car would bog down with little meaningful acceleration, that from a 150mph car. Then, when we changed to the volvo T5's, you had the benefit of forced induction with meant you didnt have to keep the engine on the boil so much and could rely on the different characteristics and use higher gears for similar pick up.
Great fun to drive though, and a fantastic car to coach steering technique...
The older BMW 535 was similarly afflicted, with a cavernous gap between 2nd and 3rd.
Perhaps the exceptions prove the rule?
Or perhaps it wasn't a rule in the first place; but a thought for consideration.
WilliBetz said:
and possibly this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvXbmR1Rjv0
Had the tractor not cooperated, I'd have been inclined to hold back and pop into the Crab for a bite to eat...
Wasn't sure, but as he's going past the tractor, is there not a right hand turning just before the de-restricted sign? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvXbmR1Rjv0
Had the tractor not cooperated, I'd have been inclined to hold back and pop into the Crab for a bite to eat...
Adom said:
Wasn't sure, but as he's going past the tractor, is there not a right hand turning just before the de-restricted sign?
Yes - a warning of pedestrians in the road, and two entrances right. From the video, it's not at all obvious that we could see the entrances to be clear. And presumably the pedestrians are using the entrances or a footpath to get onto or off the road.Given the situation, and the scope to delay the pass without losing the opportunity, I'd have strongly preferred the driver to delay the commitment to pass until after we had cleared the second entrance right.
Edited by WilliBetz on Monday 25th February 14:39
WilliBetz said:
Adom said:
Wasn't sure, but as he's going past the tractor, is there not a right hand turning just before the de-restricted sign?
Yes - a warning of pedestrians in the road, and two entrances right. From the video, it's not at all obvious that we could see the entrances to be clear. And presumably the pedestrians are using the entrances or a footpath to get onto or off the road.Given the situation, and the ample opportunity to delay the pass without losing the opportunity, I'd have strongly preferred the driver to delay the commitment to pass until after we had cleared the second entrance right.
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