Idiot causes an accident on the A1 filmed by the BBC

Idiot causes an accident on the A1 filmed by the BBC

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robinessex

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Monday 29th July
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Idiot causes an accident on the A1 filmed by the BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2lkylk3e0go

Some complete idiots suddenly brakes in the 3rd lane of the A1 because they see a car waiting to cross. Yes, I know the following cars should be able to stop in time, but honestly, I bet this would catch out at least 90% of the drivers on the road.

mac96

4,456 posts

151 months

Monday 29th July
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Two people demonstrating the opposite of advanced driving!
Actually there is a good lesson there of the risks of thoughtless attempts to be helpful.

thetapeworm

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247 months

Monday 29th July
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Did the "idiot" brake or did the Tesla perceive a threat and brake itself?

Bear-n

1,689 posts

90 months

Monday 29th July
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"duel carriageway"

silly

MDT

529 posts

180 months

Monday 29th July
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Dare I say it, both cars that crashed should have actually been in the inside lane too.

But yes totally 90% of drivers would have also rear ended the car that "just stopped".

The white car could have / should have pulled into the inside lane and not just jumped on the brakes.

There are a few junctions like that round here, I am very aware of the higher chance of "an event" when passing them.

7mike

3,095 posts

201 months

Monday 29th July
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Who could have avoided the crash?

Dynamic Space Wizard

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112 months

Monday 29th July
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"3rd lane"

robinessex

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189 months

Monday 29th July
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Dynamic Space Wizard said:
"3rd lane"
There are 2 lanes plus a left turn lane. I'm not sure how far back the turn left lane starts. Observation accepted though.

robinessex

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Monday 29th July
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7mike said:
Who could have avoided the crash?
Someone sufficiently far behind who'd have the space necessary to slow down/stop

LimmerickLad

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23 months

Monday 29th July
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Only a fool breaks the two second rule!

dudleybloke

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194 months

Monday 29th July
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thetapeworm said:
Did the "idiot" brake or did the Tesla perceive a threat and brake itself?
Could very well be the Tesla sensing the waiting car as a hazard and putting the anchors on.

IJWS15

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93 months

Monday 29th July
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thetapeworm said:
Did the "idiot" brake or did the Tesla perceive a threat and brake itself?
Most of the cars we have had over the last 10 years have thrown up the red car symbol on the dash from time to time (crow on verge, roadworks sign on verge, most times I have no idea of the reason). I am glad none have had autonomous braking. . . . although the current one may have auto emergency brake!

Idiot in second car too close.

mac96

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151 months

Monday 29th July
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Before we all pile on the white car, someone on the st Driving thread rightly observed that the Tesla appears to have no brake lights, as well as stopping for no good reason.

Both drivers could have avoided it!

snotrag

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219 months

Monday 29th July
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mac96 said:
Before we all pile on the white car, someone on the st Driving thread rightly observed that the Tesla appears to have no brake lights
Meanwhile in the 'People who have working eyes' thread, we can clearly see the brake lights on the Tesla as it slows down. Pile on justified.

LimmerickLad

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23 months

Monday 29th July
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snotrag said:
mac96 said:
Before we all pile on the white car, someone on the st Driving thread rightly observed that the Tesla appears to have no brake lights
Meanwhile in the 'People who have working eyes' thread, we can clearly see the brake lights on the Tesla as it slows down. Pile on justified.
yes

mac96

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151 months

Monday 29th July
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snotrag said:
mac96 said:
Before we all pile on the white car, someone on the st Driving thread rightly observed that the Tesla appears to have no brake lights
Meanwhile in the 'People who have working eyes' thread, we can clearly see the brake lights on the Tesla as it slows down. Pile on justified.
Yes, I'll accept the brake lights thing, others seem to be able see them. Depends on screen size!

I have no problem with criticism of white car, either too close or not paying attention- but Tesla cannot be blameless- stopping in lane 2 of a fast road for no reason is poor driving. If it was a defect in the car's systems as suggested that might exonerate the Tesla driver from blame, but it cannot somehow make the other driver more at fault!

ambuletz

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189 months

Monday 29th July
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mac96 said:
Before we all pile on the white car, someone on the st Driving thread rightly observed that the Tesla appears to have no brake lights, as well as stopping for no good reason.

Both drivers could have avoided it!
clearly they didn't observe well enough. in the above clip you can see immediately as the Tesla enters the frame the brake lights were on, then go off.

croyde

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238 months

Monday 29th July
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Both at fault.

Tesla for stopping as if it was a gridlocked typical high street, and presumably not even checking his mirrors.

White car for being too close, although maybe with plenty of traffic behind even the 2s rule would not have helped in this case.

Worrying that, as suggested, the car may have decided to stop.

TheBinarySheep

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59 months

Monday 29th July
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CheesecakeRunner said:
Indeed. Having had the pleasure of owning a Tesla that would st itself and put the anchors on if it saw a shadow, it really wouldn’t surprise me.
Ours does it too.

I reckon in this case, the driver was using Cruise control, car saw the vehicle in the middle as a hazard, and slammed the brakes on it.

Panamax

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42 months

Monday 29th July
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mac96 said:
someone on the st Driving thread rightly observed that the Tesla appears to have no brake lights
Brake lights are clearly visible for a moment at the start of the video. Both drivers played an active part in the collision but 99% of the time it's the one behind that gets nailed for "liability".