How do you approach a queue behind overtaking trucks?
Discussion
Imagine you are cruising on the dual carriageway and you catch up to one truck overtaking another truck with a line of cars patiently queueing in lane 2 waiting for the truck in lane 2 to complete his maneuver. On approaching this situation, where do you position your car?
A) Move over to lane 2 and join the back of the queue to overtake the truck?
B) Stay in lane 1 to pass the slower moving traffic in lane 2 and merge in to the queue nearer the front, ideally just behind the truck?
What do you do in this situation?
A) Move over to lane 2 and join the back of the queue to overtake the truck?
B) Stay in lane 1 to pass the slower moving traffic in lane 2 and merge in to the queue nearer the front, ideally just behind the truck?
What do you do in this situation?
Just stay in lane 1 until the elephant race is over, it could be quite a few miles until there is a winner and then overtake when there is a gap in lane 2.
The fact everyone sits in lane 2 going nowhere is daft, it is just a stressful way to drive with the random braking, trying not to get caught out and cause an accident.
The fact everyone sits in lane 2 going nowhere is daft, it is just a stressful way to drive with the random braking, trying not to get caught out and cause an accident.
hyperblue said:
s p a c e m a n said:
3. Stay in lane 1, fly up and down the next junction and beat them all?
Bonus points if the “junction” is a lay-by.I would go with B, but minus the pulling out bit. Just stay in lane one until there is a (good sized) gap or someone let's you in lane 2. No pushing or shoving, just patience.
If there are only a few cars in lane 2, I may join that, but I would happily let someone in lane 1 out, provided they indicated and waited.
No need for road captains here.
If there are only a few cars in lane 2, I may join that, but I would happily let someone in lane 1 out, provided they indicated and waited.
No need for road captains here.
MikeM6 said:
I would go with B, but minus the pulling out bit. Just stay in lane one until there is a (good sized) gap or someone let's you in lane 2. No pushing or shoving, just patience.
If there are only a few cars in lane 2, I may join that, but I would happily let someone in lane 1 out, provided they indicated and waited.
No need for road captains here.
I think a lot of it will depend on how you present yourself. If you are pretty much matching the speed of lane 2 as you both catch up to the lorries and you signal to slot into lane 2 without needing to accelerate or brake, you'll have a much better chance of being let in than if you go full Audi-man and tank up lane 1, stand on the brakes when you run out of road and then try and force your way into lane 2.If there are only a few cars in lane 2, I may join that, but I would happily let someone in lane 1 out, provided they indicated and waited.
No need for road captains here.
In reality, I'd guess forward observation would mean you are already actively looking/planning to join lane 2 when you first spot the overtaking lorry and so should have plenty of time to merge.
Chris
This is advanced driving, you would not find yourself in that position - through observation earlier on.
However, as implied just now, there is a way of presenting your vehicle in position and pace as to be perceived as not aggressive but suitably placed to ‘nip in’ unobtrusively. Situation dependent, of course. Some may let you in, and like to feel magnanimous - as long as suitable thank you is given.
However, as implied just now, there is a way of presenting your vehicle in position and pace as to be perceived as not aggressive but suitably placed to ‘nip in’ unobtrusively. Situation dependent, of course. Some may let you in, and like to feel magnanimous - as long as suitable thank you is given.
It depends what lane I was already in, if I was already in the left I'll slow to match the speed of the last vehicle in the queue. If the line then slows down, which often happens, I'll usually just continue with a possible roll off the throttle if to about sixty so I am only slowly closing on the lorry in the lane in front of me. I have found that if you come parallel with a car on the right then slow to drop behind many drivers are happy to let you in. It seems that the combination of a steady drift past due to the right lane having to brake, then a slow position ready to pass clearly demonstrates you are not pushing, but simply driving.
I find the main issue is car drivers not getting on with an overtake once the lorry has pulled over. Possibly worse are the weirdos that slow as they pass a lorry then accelerate after the pull over.
I find the main issue is car drivers not getting on with an overtake once the lorry has pulled over. Possibly worse are the weirdos that slow as they pass a lorry then accelerate after the pull over.
This is advanced driving, you would not find yourself in that position - through observation earlier on.
However, as implied just now, there is a way of presenting your vehicle in position and pace as to be perceived as not aggressive but suitably placed to ‘nip in’ unobtrusively. Situation dependent, of course. Some may let you in, and like to feel magnanimous - as long as suitable thank you is given.
However, as implied just now, there is a way of presenting your vehicle in position and pace as to be perceived as not aggressive but suitably placed to ‘nip in’ unobtrusively. Situation dependent, of course. Some may let you in, and like to feel magnanimous - as long as suitable thank you is given.
Drive extra fast the whole journey so your ahead of the trucks before they start the elephant race.
There’s no ‘win’ here, if I was in lane one previous I’d just continue untill I was at the back of the trucks then stick indicator on and wait. As long as not blasting up the inside at a silly speed and trying to force merge, someone will let you in.
There’s no ‘win’ here, if I was in lane one previous I’d just continue untill I was at the back of the trucks then stick indicator on and wait. As long as not blasting up the inside at a silly speed and trying to force merge, someone will let you in.
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