Poor road design
Discussion
A new housing development has been built on a route I use. They’ve called it something b
ks like “Meadowview” when in fact they’ve concreted over the fking meadow…
Anyway a new roundabout has been installed to aid entry/egress from the estate but seems really poorly planned.
There is no signage and it’s a free for all. The entry to the roundabout has two lanes and there are just about two unmarked lanes around the roundabout for about half of its circumference - there’s a pinch point coming the other way…
As there are really only two exits it seems reasonable to use left hand lane for entering the estate and right hand lane to continue as that exit is at about 1 o’clock so not straight on. Both exits are single lane.
I was following a car in the right hand lane today I had to slam the anchors on as someone decided they wanted the 1 o clock exit from the left hand lane. It’s such a crap piece of road design there are bound to be accidents. I thought there was meant to be some skill involved in road design
Or it is just me not knowing how to drive….
Ignore the road at the top- that was the old route and is now blocked off.
Direction of travel right to left
ks like “Meadowview” when in fact they’ve concreted over the fking meadow…Anyway a new roundabout has been installed to aid entry/egress from the estate but seems really poorly planned.
There is no signage and it’s a free for all. The entry to the roundabout has two lanes and there are just about two unmarked lanes around the roundabout for about half of its circumference - there’s a pinch point coming the other way…
As there are really only two exits it seems reasonable to use left hand lane for entering the estate and right hand lane to continue as that exit is at about 1 o’clock so not straight on. Both exits are single lane.
I was following a car in the right hand lane today I had to slam the anchors on as someone decided they wanted the 1 o clock exit from the left hand lane. It’s such a crap piece of road design there are bound to be accidents. I thought there was meant to be some skill involved in road design
Or it is just me not knowing how to drive….
Ignore the road at the top- that was the old route and is now blocked off.
Direction of travel right to left
Scrump said:
Is it two lanes entering on Haverhill road and two lanes exiting on Haverhill road?
Haverhill road is a single carriageway - two lanes entering roundabout but then one lane at the exit.Just driven it again and the exit is actually at 2 o’clock given the actual point of entry at the roundabout
Miserablegit said:
Scrump said:
Is it two lanes entering on Haverhill road and two lanes exiting on Haverhill road?
Haverhill road is a single carriageway - two lanes entering roundabout but then one lane at the exit.Just driven it again and the exit is actually at 2 o’clock given the actual point of entry at the roundabout
Knowing it's a stupid road layout, I would expect people to do stupid things. Mitigating other people's mistakes is arguably one of the best driving skills you can have.
Slightly ot, heading N toward a r'about today, two lane DC Heading N & S w single roads E & W, Audi heading S in lane 2, about to take his second exit lane2 A, suddenly swerves right and takes third exit E. Lady in passenger seat must have shouted 'Tesco'!
Slightly ot, heading N toward a r'about today, two lane DC Heading N & S w single roads E & W, Audi heading S in lane 2, about to take his second exit lane2 A, suddenly swerves right and takes third exit E. Lady in passenger seat must have shouted 'Tesco'!
The issue is that there isn’t a defensive approach to take apart from following the vehicle in front. If I take the left hand lane (which I think is incorrect for a 2 o’clock exit ) I’ll be at risk of someone coming through on right hand side- the reverse applies to the right hand lane. Easily fixed with some road markings
The spinner of plates said:
CoolHands said:
They’ve blocked off that perfect road above to force everyone via the roundabout? Haha this country…
My first thought also.. utter madness. Riley Blue said:
The spinner of plates said:
CoolHands said:
They’ve blocked off that perfect road above to force everyone via the roundabout? Haha this country…
My first thought also.. utter madness. Riley Blue said:
The spinner of plates said:
CoolHands said:
They’ve blocked off that perfect road above to force everyone via the roundabout? Haha this country…
My first thought also.. utter madness. As said, always anticipate others’ mistakes, and allow room for them to get out of them - that’s advanced driving.
Riley Blue said:
What sort of junction would you prefer on that perfect road to allow access to the housing, a T-junction, possibly light controlled, or a roundabout?
Yes they could just widen the main road slightly and have junction like this. In this pic the A2 is the main road. Everybody’s happy. That was 5 seconds thought, I’m sure there are other options
CoolHands said:
Pica-Pica said:
If that is (to become) a large housing estate, it was always going to be a roundabout.
These days. Somehow we managed other ideas in the past.I assume the logic is that a T-junction is likely to frustrate those leaving the estate, with resulting T-boning at a higher speed than roundabout clips.
A recent housing estate near me has a similarly designed roundabout with the addition of some off camber chicanes on all the entrances and seemingly pointless kerbstones jutting out into the space that a nearside front wheel would enter were you to dare straight lining it.
I can only assume road planners have failed their driving tests multiple times and have a hatred of all motorists as a result or something.
I can only assume road planners have failed their driving tests multiple times and have a hatred of all motorists as a result or something.
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