a bit of a moan about pushing in to lines
Discussion
Coming home from Heathrow on Saturday lunch time - as you come up from the airport onto the M4 and then to join the M25 - it was busy and a line of cars. BUT so many were driving along the M4 until right at the end and stopping on the M4 to force themselves into the slip road line of waiting cars - Nearly everyone had a 3D numberplate and was either a rangerover or similar - or an Audi and surprisingly quite a few Tesla, then of course was the white vans and taxis. Quite a few near misses from lorries and other cars not expecting stationary traffic in the live lane.
Just frustrating having my time delayed by the selfish!!
Anyway - moan over, more positive things to concentrate on today
Just frustrating having my time delayed by the selfish!!
Anyway - moan over, more positive things to concentrate on today
blueg33 said:
Tribal Chestnut said:
I often don’t join/leave a motorway until the last possible safe/legal moment if doing so will help me progress.
Op was implying it wasn’t safeOn a daily commute, You get to know which junctions are okay to leave it to the last minute, and which junctions, you need to get in lane early.
There are 9 roundabouts on my commute. On 2 of them, hitting them in the wrong lane, and changing lane, halfway around, can save 5 mins on the journey. They are big enough that people don't even notice. Once in 12 months, I went around 440 degrees, because cutting in wasn't safe. Unfortunately that roundabout is massive and has lights on it so that day, I probably lost 5 mins.
I sympathise OP.
I got a shock yesterday evening driving out of Leeds on the A61. An ambulance came up from behind with its blue lights on but not siren. I was just coming to a junction with a road joining from the left. I (and the two cars behind me) indicated and pulled half off the A61 into the mouth of the side road and stopped. The ambulance passed. Then I was staggered to see another car driven by someone drunk on their own self importance overtake me and the two cars behind me, preventing us re-joining the carriageway.
In my 31 years of driving, I thought there was well established etiquette that you didn’t take advantage by overtaking vehicles that had pulled over for a blue light vehicle to pass. If behind them, You gave way to let them get going again.
I understand that a number of police forces are increasing their numbers of road patrols, so hopefully there will be more “words of advice” to people driving badly.
I got a shock yesterday evening driving out of Leeds on the A61. An ambulance came up from behind with its blue lights on but not siren. I was just coming to a junction with a road joining from the left. I (and the two cars behind me) indicated and pulled half off the A61 into the mouth of the side road and stopped. The ambulance passed. Then I was staggered to see another car driven by someone drunk on their own self importance overtake me and the two cars behind me, preventing us re-joining the carriageway.
In my 31 years of driving, I thought there was well established etiquette that you didn’t take advantage by overtaking vehicles that had pulled over for a blue light vehicle to pass. If behind them, You gave way to let them get going again.
I understand that a number of police forces are increasing their numbers of road patrols, so hopefully there will be more “words of advice” to people driving badly.
Tom4398cc said:
I sympathise OP.
I got a shock yesterday evening driving out of Leeds on the A61. An ambulance came up from behind with its blue lights on but not siren. I was just coming to a junction with a road joining from the left. I (and the two cars behind me) indicated and pulled half off the A61 into the mouth of the side road and stopped. The ambulance passed. Then I was staggered to see another car driven by someone drunk on their own self importance overtake me and the two cars behind me, preventing us re-joining the carriageway.
In my 31 years of driving, I thought there was well established etiquette that you didn’t take advantage by overtaking vehicles that had pulled over for a blue light vehicle to pass. If behind them, You gave way to let them get going again.
I understand that a number of police forces are increasing their numbers of road patrols, so hopefully there will be more “words of advice” to people driving badly.
Are you sure? Doesn't sound very likely now the country is broke.I got a shock yesterday evening driving out of Leeds on the A61. An ambulance came up from behind with its blue lights on but not siren. I was just coming to a junction with a road joining from the left. I (and the two cars behind me) indicated and pulled half off the A61 into the mouth of the side road and stopped. The ambulance passed. Then I was staggered to see another car driven by someone drunk on their own self importance overtake me and the two cars behind me, preventing us re-joining the carriageway.
In my 31 years of driving, I thought there was well established etiquette that you didn’t take advantage by overtaking vehicles that had pulled over for a blue light vehicle to pass. If behind them, You gave way to let them get going again.
I understand that a number of police forces are increasing their numbers of road patrols, so hopefully there will be more “words of advice” to people driving badly.
I will absolutely join late if it is safe to do so - The M1 south onto the M25 is a prime example. Big line over a mile away, but a 500 yards you can slot in as the traffic is back moving at 40mph ish.
The issue with this one, was EVERYONE was not moving or just crawling - so many cars stopping on the live carriageway to FORCE their way in. Totally unsafe and self importance.
I agree with the politeness of not 'taking advantage' when you let a blue light vehicle pass - just common decency - but unfortunately its all me me me now.
Sorry for the moan - just frustrated me. More for the safety and second for the F you to everyone else!!
The issue with this one, was EVERYONE was not moving or just crawling - so many cars stopping on the live carriageway to FORCE their way in. Totally unsafe and self importance.
I agree with the politeness of not 'taking advantage' when you let a blue light vehicle pass - just common decency - but unfortunately its all me me me now.
Sorry for the moan - just frustrated me. More for the safety and second for the F you to everyone else!!
Tom4398cc said:
I sympathise OP.
I thought there was well established etiquette that you didn’t take advantage by overtaking vehicles that had pulled over for a blue light vehicle to pass. If behind them, You gave way to let them get going again.
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I've been driving long enough to remember when "etiquette" existed on the roads.I thought there was well established etiquette that you didn’t take advantage by overtaking vehicles that had pulled over for a blue light vehicle to pass. If behind them, You gave way to let them get going again.
y.
Sadly it seems to have almost dissapeared in our society
What really boils my brew is when I’m approaching the exit slip road (usually J14 M1 southbound in my case) I’ll get a throbber who will slowly pass and slot into the small gap between me and the car in front, rather than slot in behind into what would often be generous 200m or so gap behind.
I don’t get it.
I don’t get it.
Vasco said:
Tribal Chestnut said:
I often don’t join/leave a motorway until the last possible safe/legal moment if doing so will help me progress.
If you're going to cut in at the last possible moment how do you know in advance that there will a safe space ?Gassing Station | Advanced Driving | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff