Keep Clear sign outside house
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Hello All
We're on a main road (B road one lane in each direction). There is a traffic lights perhaps 30M up the road and sometimes cars queue back from it. Outside our house (and the one opposite) is a road marking "Keep Clear".
I had always assumed it was put there to allow vehicles leaving our house and our neighbours property (small block of flats so quite busy) to join the road if the cars are queuing. However, after ten years of being here one car got annoyed and started beeping after I pulled out and went into the Keep Clear area. It got me thinking.
So my question is despite the markings apparently being there due to us and neighbours, am I still wrong for moving over the area ? How should I pull out of my house onto the road if there is constant queueing traffic outside ?
We're on a main road (B road one lane in each direction). There is a traffic lights perhaps 30M up the road and sometimes cars queue back from it. Outside our house (and the one opposite) is a road marking "Keep Clear".
I had always assumed it was put there to allow vehicles leaving our house and our neighbours property (small block of flats so quite busy) to join the road if the cars are queuing. However, after ten years of being here one car got annoyed and started beeping after I pulled out and went into the Keep Clear area. It got me thinking.
So my question is despite the markings apparently being there due to us and neighbours, am I still wrong for moving over the area ? How should I pull out of my house onto the road if there is constant queueing traffic outside ?
mike42 said:
Hello All
We're on a main road (B road one lane in each direction). There is a traffic lights perhaps 30M up the road and sometimes cars queue back from it. Outside our house (and the one opposite) is a road marking "Keep Clear".
I had always assumed it was put there to allow vehicles leaving our house and our neighbours property (small block of flats so quite busy) to join the road if the cars are queuing. However, after ten years of being here one car got annoyed and started beeping after I pulled out and went into the Keep Clear area. It got me thinking.
So my question is despite the markings apparently being there due to us and neighbours, am I still wrong for moving over the area ? How should I pull out of my house onto the road if there is constant queueing traffic outside ?
The main reason it is there is to avoid hold ups caused by people wanting to make a right turn into your properties from the far lane. I can’t imagine anyone getting very excited about seeing you turning left into the keep clear though. Did they arrive after you had made the move, so assumed you had been travelling along the road?We're on a main road (B road one lane in each direction). There is a traffic lights perhaps 30M up the road and sometimes cars queue back from it. Outside our house (and the one opposite) is a road marking "Keep Clear".
I had always assumed it was put there to allow vehicles leaving our house and our neighbours property (small block of flats so quite busy) to join the road if the cars are queuing. However, after ten years of being here one car got annoyed and started beeping after I pulled out and went into the Keep Clear area. It got me thinking.
So my question is despite the markings apparently being there due to us and neighbours, am I still wrong for moving over the area ? How should I pull out of my house onto the road if there is constant queueing traffic outside ?
Anyone who gets themselves enraged by (what they see as) minor transgressions like this, must be related to the poster who started a long thread about blowing his horn because a (Police) car didn’t indicate on a left turn.
The Keep Clear marking may or may not be backed up by a Traffic Order. If it is, then it is enforceable but I don't think the POLICE or council would bother if it is for private residential property.
The marking is there to allow vehicles to access and egress from the property. If turning left into a queue it would be common courtesy for the first vehicle queuing before the marking to allow the waiting vehicle to join the traffic.
The marking is there to allow vehicles to access and egress from the property. If turning left into a queue it would be common courtesy for the first vehicle queuing before the marking to allow the waiting vehicle to join the traffic.
Bungleaio said:
It sould be kept clear and you pulled onto the road and blocked it, I'm.not suprised the other diver got annoyed.
It's there to allow people to cross the road onto the driveway not to make it easier for people to get off the driveway easier.
No. I assume the wording is written in an orientation for people on the main road to read (and thus conform to).It's there to allow people to cross the road onto the driveway not to make it easier for people to get off the driveway easier.
Bungleaio said:
It sould be kept clear and you pulled onto the road and blocked it, I'm.not suprised the other diver got annoyed.
It's there to allow people to cross the road onto the driveway not to make it easier for people to get off the driveway easier.
From what I understand, it IS the OP's driveway.It's there to allow people to cross the road onto the driveway not to make it easier for people to get off the driveway easier.
As I see it the driveway is effectively like the road that the orange car is emerging from in the picture below. If the orange car wanted to turn left the keep clear on the main road is not there to help them join. They should wait until the green car has moved forward and made space so that when they pull out they don't cover the keep clear section.
In reality the orange car would just pull out and the red car would have to wait.
In reality the orange car would just pull out and the red car would have to wait.
Sorry to bring up my old thread but just realised it wasn't clear that the "Keep Clear" sign is in the furthest lane (the traffic heading to the right). Also, one space after that is a traffic lights so it is almost always the case when I come out of my drive to turn right, that there is one car waiting at the lights followed by the "keep clear" followed by one or two more cars.
So is the consensus I can turn right and stop on the keep clear or should I wait for the traffic lights to change, the traffic to move past and then try and get out before they go red again ?
And if I can't stop on the keep clear sign, what is it for ?
So is the consensus I can turn right and stop on the keep clear or should I wait for the traffic lights to change, the traffic to move past and then try and get out before they go red again ?
And if I can't stop on the keep clear sign, what is it for ?
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