People who accelerate to block overtake

People who accelerate to block overtake

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bartelbe

Original Poster:

92 posts

87 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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Stuck behind driver doing an indicated 20 in a 30 zone. Very frustrating but then I realised that I was on a long straight bit of road, dashed lines, good visibility and no junctions. So why didn't I just overtake?

Indicated and pulled out to go round the other car, only for them to accelerate as I was in the other lane. Managed to get ahead of the fool, though I of course never went above 30 officer and they flashed me as I pull in ahead of them.

What makes this even more ridiculous is I left this car miles behind and I never went above an indicated 30 on the speedo, which is about 25mph on my car. So I was hardly speeding.

I just don't get the attitude. If people want to drive slow, fair enough but why do they get angry when people overtake them?

Milkyway

10,064 posts

60 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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Obviously they were more comfortable with everybody being behind them... That way, they can just enjoy THEIR journey without all the hassle of concentrating on any other vehicles.

Perhaps they flashed you...as a polite ‘you’re clear to pull back in now’ message.
I hope you acknowledged... winds me up if they don’t.


Edited by Milkyway on Saturday 27th November 12:10

mickyh7

2,347 posts

93 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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Could (or would) the Police do anything about driving too slowly or indeed turning the overtake into a dangerous situation?
I would have thought 'A' would be Driving without due care, and 'B' would be Dangerous Driving ??

Pica-Pica

14,468 posts

91 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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Which bit of this is about advanced driving? The slow speed at 20mph, or an unnecessary overtake in a 30mph zone?

anonymous-user

61 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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bartelbe said:
I just don't get the attitude. If people want to drive slow, fair enough but why do they get angry when people overtake them?
From what you’ve said I’d the overtaken driver either (a) genuinely but mistakenly thought the limit was 20; or (b) more plausibly thought that whatever the limit actually was, 20 was the max safe speed anyone should be doing on that road.

Either way, a bit of a tit.

Red9zero

7,911 posts

64 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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mickyh7 said:
Could (or would) the Police do anything about driving too slowly or indeed turning the overtake into a dangerous situation?
I would have thought 'A' would be Driving without due care, and 'B' would be Dangerous Driving ??
My wife was pulled over for doing 30 in a 40 limit. Although it was 2am on a Saturday morning so did look a bit suspicious.

Geffg

1,232 posts

112 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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I’d of overtaken too and when he sped up and I was able to pass him just pull in front as he’s at my bumper and just carry on but thinking to myself what a right t#t he is for doing that. No need to speed up when someone’s overtaking especially if your going slower than the actual speed limit. Not worth getting worked up about.
Trouble is sometimes, depends how far they’re willing to accelerate and how far your willing to go to get in front. I’ve had it a few times on motorways too and I really don’t understand peoples thinking.

Edited by Geffg on Saturday 27th November 13:53

Pica-Pica

14,468 posts

91 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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Can we have a ‘Basic Driving’ forum please?

Milkyway

10,064 posts

60 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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Pica-Pica said:
Can we have a ‘Basic Driving’ forum please?
Good old Maureen... 1990 eek
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5UediCv6Fe8

Edited by Milkyway on Saturday 27th November 15:15

carreauchompeur

18,011 posts

211 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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I think half the time you just wake them up!

Panamax

5,079 posts

41 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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mickyh7 said:
Could (or would) the Police do anything about driving too slowly
Under the Road Traffic Act 1988 (section 3) it is an offence to drive a motor vehicle on a road or public place “without due care and attention, or without reasonable consideration for other persons using the road or place”.

if your driving can be said to “inconvenience” other road users, you are likely to be convicted for inconsiderate driving. This offence can be proved in court by the testimony of another road user.

The wide description of the offence means that all manner of things can qualify as inconsiderate driving. The CPS has a non-exhaustive list of examples on its website:

Flashing of lights to force other drivers in front to give way
Misuse of any lane to avoid queuing or to gain an advantage over other road users
Unnecessarily remaining in an overtaking lane (popularly known as “middle lane hogging”)
Unnecessarily slow driving, or braking without good cause
Driving with undipped headlights which dazzle other road users
Driving through a puddle causing pedestrians to be splashed


bartelbe

Original Poster:

92 posts

87 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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Milkyway said:
Obviously they were more comfortable with everybody being behind them... That way, they can just enjoy THEIR journey without all the hassle of concentrating on any other vehicles.

Perhaps they flashed you...as a polite ‘you’re clear to pull back in now’ message.
I hope you acknowledged... winds me up if they don’t.


Edited by Milkyway on Saturday 27th November 12:10
No it was the angry flash because I dared to overtake them. Now if it is illegal to overtake in a 30 zone and I made a mistake, fair enough. I am pretty sure that isn't the case.

As for the digs about basic driving, move this thread if it bothers you that much. I am not fussed.

Though I am interested what you're suppose to do if someone accelerates to block the overtake. Should you speed up to complete the overtake or pull back and abort?

carreauchompeur

18,011 posts

211 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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This is why adopting advanced techniques really helps… basically arriving at the back of the car near overtaking speed so they don’t have a chance to boot it!

MiseryStreak

2,929 posts

214 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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This is interesting, I’d always assumed the flash was to mean ‘nice overtake, well done’ etc. Which is why I’ve always replied with a thanks hand signal.

Now I’m going to unsure if I should be thanking them. I think I’ll continue to do it anyway.

Heathwood

2,798 posts

209 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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Ah yes, the 40 everywhere driver is now the 20 in all built up areas driver. I do however feel uncomfortable overtaking in a 30.

CoreyDog

766 posts

97 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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carreauchompeur said:
This is why adopting advanced techniques really helps… basically arriving at the back of the car near overtaking speed so they don’t have a chance to boot it!
This basically!

Hang back, give yourself plenty of space, when you see the opportunity arise, accelerate into the gap you've created, by time they've realised you're gaining quickly, you can move out and overtake before they have chance to attempt to block you. Easy peasy.

Most hilarious one I've had like this recently was some poor young chap in one of those massive, slow, black pickup things (Warrior, Navara etc) when I'm on a 1200cc motorbike, 40 in a 50, move out to overtake and decides he is too important to be overtaken, very gentle twist on the throttle soon sorted that. Then decided to tailgate through the next 30 when he finally caught up, got to the next national, became a large, slow black blip. Next 30, back up my arse. Got bored eventually so gave him a cheery wave goodbye and just twisted on at the next national, never saw it again. Why do they even bother against bikes?!

Edited by CoreyDog on Saturday 27th November 20:55

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

193 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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Some people, I think holding other people up is the one bit of control they are able to exert over others in their lives.




anonymous-user

61 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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Pensioners, confusing the pedals and screen wash with the headlight flasher, happens all the time. Just power past anyway.

They also seem to use their full beams when oncoming presumably struggling with eye sight.

Calite

4,282 posts

119 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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Many years of spending far to much time behind the wheel of unwieldy, slow to accelerate vehicles has led me to be of the opinion to just cut them up. If they are of the opinion that they can impede others & in some cases place other road users in direct danger then I have absolutely no second thoughts about impeding their progress.

If they want to play chicken with a steel rear bumper then so be it, always get a chuckle at the stereotypical business spec bimmer driver waving his hands erratically after his attempt to be a dick fails.

Edited by Calite on Saturday 27th November 22:11

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

53 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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I also think these people who enjoy a queue behind them might also simply enjoy having a clear road ahead.

That does not explain why they nearly always speed up or flash you however, but I do find it odd.

I always try to imagine being them, can you imagine being that useless?