Driving a Automatic in 2021 - how?

Driving a Automatic in 2021 - how?

Poll: Driving a Automatic in 2021 - how?

Total Members Polled: 186

Left Foot only: 1%
Left Foot Brake - Right Foot Accelerate: 10%
Right Foot only: 88%
Whatever is closest! Lol: 1%
Author
Discussion

VEX

Original Poster:

5,256 posts

252 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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So. I drive manual car and van and an auto motorhome.

On a Motorhome FB page people are having issues with the auto gearboxes going into limp mode because the management system can't cope with both brake and accelerator being pressed at the same time.

I learnt back 30 odd years ago and driving a manual it has always been Right Foot Brake & Accelerate, Left Clutch.

Some are saying the way autos are now taught and expect to be driven is Left Foot brake and right Accelerate. I accept it should improve reaction times but really??

Hence the poll and feel free to comment.

giantdefy

689 posts

119 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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Why would you want to 'both brake and accelerator being pressed at the same time'?

SD_1

7,271 posts

164 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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I don't think I have ever seen someone use their left foot in an automatic. My current car is my first auto, and I am right foot only.

Flibble

6,486 posts

187 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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giantdefy said:
Why would you want to 'both brake and accelerator being pressed at the same time'?
I can see it in a manual, but in an automatic is makes no sense.

Haltamer

2,533 posts

86 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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giantdefy said:
Why would you want to 'both brake and accelerator being pressed at the same time'?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-foot_braking

Less time moving between pedals, smoother transition from power to brakes and vice versa, the ability to balance load transfer, the ability to wind up the turbo mid corner etc:- It's quite fun going round a roundabout, getting the boost up whilst holding it on the brakes and releasing as soon as you're in a straight line.

Flibble

6,486 posts

187 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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Haltamer said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-foot_braking

Less time moving between pedals, smoother transition from power to brakes and vice versa, the ability to balance load transfer, the ability to wind up the turbo mid corner etc:- It's quite fun going round a roundabout, getting the boost up whilst holding it on the brakes and releasing as soon as you're in a straight line.
Probably not applicable in a motorhome, though I guess it takes all sorts. wink

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

73 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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Every auto I've driven I've used the brake with throttle application to preload the torque converter for a quicker getaway at junctions etc. Especially with today's emphasis on dullwit ecotoss throttle response "oh you want to go, well, let's have a little think about shall we?"

RUSTILLDOWN

370 posts

74 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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When I tried left foot braking my passenger kept asking why I keep doing emergency stops…

Dave Hedgehog

14,671 posts

210 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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automatics in 2021 dont need the brake pedal smile

HustleRussell

25,160 posts

166 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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VEX said:
Some are saying the way autos are now taught and expect to be driven is Left Foot brake and right Accelerate.
These people are wrong.

dvenman

224 posts

121 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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VEX said:
Some are saying the way autos are now taught and expect to be driven is Left Foot brake and right Accelerate
Define "Some" ?

Pica-Pica

14,353 posts

90 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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Teddy Lop said:
Every auto I've driven I've used the brake with throttle application to preload the torque converter for a quicker getaway at junctions etc. Especially with today's emphasis on dullwit ecotoss throttle response "oh you want to go, well, let's have a little think about shall we?"
Wrong car then!

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

73 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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Pica-Pica said:
Teddy Lop said:
Every auto I've driven I've used the brake with throttle application to preload the torque converter for a quicker getaway at junctions etc. Especially with today's emphasis on dullwit ecotoss throttle response "oh you want to go, well, let's have a little think about shall we?"
Wrong car then!
The Mrs car has a proper old school analogue throttle and I have to be careful with that!

Makes me wonder if people being used to deliberately dulled throttle response in mundane to middling cars isn't a factor in why high powered cars get binned so often.

donkmeister

9,050 posts

106 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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Surely right foot is accelerator and service brake, left foot is parking brake (don't ask me which foot for switching headlamp beams biggrin )

I remember that using the left foot to brake an automatic was a big no-no before the days of DBW throttle. Presumably because it added load and wear to both the brakes and transmission, but I was never told why. I heard it on old, old Top Gear and from my driving instructor (learned manual but he was very thorough!)

I only use my left foot on the brake to burn-out or if I really, really need to launch in a hurry.

slipknotted

249 posts

43 months

Wednesday 25th August 2021
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In every scenario bar A-road driving my right foot has reign of both pedals but on something mildly twisty that requires the car to bite and rotate I'll indulge in some cheeky left foot braking.

Left foot braking in a motorhome though? If these people are 'advanced drivers' and want to load the torque converter at the lights or balance the beast through a corner it might be useful? I'd guess that's not the case and they're halfwits though, right foot only for 99% of driving.

JmatthewB

919 posts

128 months

Wednesday 25th August 2021
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Whenever I have tried to left-foot brake in a road car it feels completely alien and it feels like I'm doing an emergency stop.

S. Gonzales Esq.

2,558 posts

218 months

Wednesday 25th August 2021
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FWIW, it took me about a year of practice to be able to use either foot for braking in autos.

It takes a while, but if you’re concerned about smoothness and balance then it’s a game-changer.

tivver500

370 posts

276 months

Wednesday 25th August 2021
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Unfortunately if you touch the brake, in a VAG group auto, it disables the throttle pedal....
Ask me how I know!!!
It worked on my old man's Omega with the torque converter box but not on modern dsg boxes.
Also not recommended by advanced tutors....

pmorg4

746 posts

122 months

Wednesday 25th August 2021
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Years ago driving my mate's dad's Citroen Picasso that we had borrowed, dog slow TD with horrid turbo lag so I decided I'd try the whole "keep it on boost by using the brake and throttle simultaneously". It promptly went into limp mode, reducing an already pitiful power level to something even lower. Thankfully it reset itself after about 10 minutes, as we had a long way to travel.

voram

4,878 posts

40 months

Wednesday 25th August 2021
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Right foot = accelerator or brake.
Left foot = sometimes brake, depending on circumstances.

Both pedals at the same time? Not very often, but can be useful for,
  • Hill starts
  • Quick away from a standing start.
  • Stabilising the chassis when pressing on.