Signaling when leaving roundabout

[mawallace]

I am approaching the roundabout from the six o clock position.

There are four exits (excluding mine) as follows:-

11 o'clock

2 o'clock

4 o'clock

5 o'clock

I am going to exit the 4 o'clock exit.

I will go into the right hand lane, when do I indicate right - or do I indicate left after passing the 2 o clock exit,

[Dr Jekyll]

I'd say certainly indicate left after passing the 2 o'clock. Indicate right on the approach and I'd leave it going until I'd passed the 2 o'clock but I can see the argument that it isn't really serving much purpose at this point. In the days of hand signals it would be right on the approach and entry, left after the 2 o'clock and nothing in between, nobody would expect you to keep one arm out of the window all the way round. Not that there were many roundabouts in those days.

[lost_boy]

When doing my HGV licence (last year) the instructor told me the correct procedure is to indicate left when you've cleared the exit before yours.

[Pica-Pica]

Although not knowing the roundabout, I would approach in right hand lane indicating right. Continue around, with my road position near the centre of the roundabout, I would cancel and move to the outside of the roundabout just before 2 o clock, indicating left when it is clear you are not exiting at 2 o’clock, and exit at 4 o’clock.

The key here is giving confidence and sureness to other road users of your intended direction.

[850R]

Right hand signal all the way round until you just about pass the exit before the one you wish to take, pause and indicate left, don't come over too early and come into conflict with any vehicle onto the approach to the roundabout

Also if there isn't anyone around to benefit from a signal there is no need to put one on at all.

[FiF]

Pica-Pica said:

Although not knowing the roundabout, I would approach in right hand lane indicating right. Continue around, with my road position near the centre of the roundabout, I would cancel and move to the outside of the roundabout just before 2 o clock, indicating left when it is clear you are not exiting at 2 o’clock, and exit at 4 o’clock.

The key here is giving confidence and sureness to other road users of your intended direction.

I'd agree with that plus really up the surveillance to spot anyone entering from 11 or 2 o'clock entries and potential conflict if they don't register that your left signal means you are aiming for 4 o'clock.

[R0G]

lost_boy said:

When doing my HGV licence (last year) the instructor told me the correct procedure is to indicate left when you've cleared the exit before yours.

Instructor said it wrong - signal needs to come on the moment it is impossible to turn into the exit before the one you want

[lost_boy]

R0G said:

Instructor said it wrong - signal needs to come on the moment it is impossible to turn into the exit before the one you want

Which is exactly what I said...

[Tony1963]

The term I was taught and still use is “as you pass the the exit before the one you intend to use”.

“As you pass” is the important part. As ever, though, keeping your eyes and ears open will tell you whether a slight adjustment is needed.

[Pica-Pica]

Tony1963 said:

The term I was taught and still use is “as you pass the the exit before the one you intend to use”.

“As you pass” is the important part. As ever, though, keeping your eyes and ears open will tell you whether a slight adjustment is needed.

Indeed. Also the cancellation of a right turn signal needs to be done at such time so that those in the exit before yours no longer see a right turn signal. If they did, they may be inclined to think you are still going round. So, while the full front is visible to them, that right indicator should be stopped, and the left indicator activated at the point when it is clear you are not leaving at their entry. It is also best if you are moving over to the left, that then emphasises the point that you are not going round past your intended exit. It also closes that inviting gap where they may be tempted to pull out, especially if they are intending to enter at 2 o’clock and leave immediately at 4 o’clock.

[R0G]

lost_boy said:

R0G said:

Instructor said it wrong - signal needs to come on the moment it is impossible to turn into the exit before the one you want

Which is exactly what I said...

You said cleared the exit - completely different

[7mike]

R0G said:

lost_boy said:

R0G said:

Instructor said it wrong - signal needs to come on the moment it is impossible to turn into the exit before the one you want

Which is exactly what I said...

You said cleared the exit - completely different

My lgv instructor didn't need to say anything; I already held a driving licence by then:

[lost_boy]

R0G said:

You said cleared the exit - completely different

Its impossible to turn into an exit you've cleared lol

[FiF]

Reminded of this thread today, small roundabout, three roads off it. Approaching from six, two exits at 10 and 2 respectively. Slight complication that a short way up the 10 exit is a junction off to the right. Vehicles emerging from that road are required to turn left by a "No right turn" sign and another which tells them to turn left and then do a 360 round the island and come back.

So to anyone trying to enter from the 6 o'clock road it's a regular thing to see someone approach island from 10, indicate right and go all the way round. 3 vehicles in succession this morning, entered from the 10, indicated right, and were still indicating right when they exited at 2. You can't risk going anyway because it is a small island and the pace the folks go they'd be into your offside if they were doing a 360.

Furthermore waiting until they have cleared the 2 junction is too late to indicate for an exit at 6, they've done the damage by then, but if started to indicate left as soon as it was too late to exit at 2, all works fine, traffic flows.

[silverfoxcc]

PIca Pica said


Indeed. Also the cancellation of a right turn signal needs to be done at such time so that those in the exit before yours no longer see a right turn signal. If they did, they may be inclined to think you are still going round. So, while the full front is visible to them, that right indicator should be stopped, and the left indicator activated at the point when it is clear you are not leaving at their entry. It is also best if you are moving over to the left, that then emphasises the point that you are not going round past your intended exit. It also closes that inviting gap where they may be tempted to pull out, especially if they are intending to enter at 2 o’clock and leave immediately at 4 o’clock.

This is so true,
using the clockface and i am coming from 6 my mantra is turning left indicate left before roundabout.the drivers at know i am going down 'their road'
All other exits eg i am going out at 3 position car correctly or if lanes marked get in correct lane for exit reqd

NO indicators either on entering of proceeding around unitl i pass 12 then it is a LH turn
This way ,and perhaps i am being a bit selfish, but it tends to put doubt into the ' I must get in front of the chap enterers' and makes them think and hesistate. Also it does not give an ambiguous signal. How many times have we seen RH signals going left, and LH signals going all the way around
a LH to exit signal ( if seen to be commenced) should only have one meaning I am leaving the roundabout at the next available exit. NO signal means i am continuing around ( Think of a one way street with exits only on the left..Do you indicate right driving down it, and then change to LH when you exit is reached????? So a roundabout is a circular one way street (EXCEPT the wired ones at the M4/A40 junction and others like the Swindon ones)