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Wait until the temp light is green, then go.
If the permanent light is then red, you can pass the temp light with the front of your car and then disregard it, going when the permanent light returns to green.
If the above isn't possible due to one or both lights remaining red, wait for a uniformed police constable to arrive and provide directions, or perform a U-turn and find a different route.
If the permanent light is then red, you can pass the temp light with the front of your car and then disregard it, going when the permanent light returns to green.
If the above isn't possible due to one or both lights remaining red, wait for a uniformed police constable to arrive and provide directions, or perform a U-turn and find a different route.
Mandat said:
Treat it as both lights have malfunctioned, and proceed with caution, as you would at any other failed light junction.
For the picture above, this; however, I feel that in person there may be some more context clues; For one, I notice a sign facing the wall on the left - As though the temporary lights are not yet in, or just out of action; If there was a work crew putting out or putting away lights this may influence the interpretation - However, I imagine the majority of other drivers wouldn't apply such thought, so extreme caution regardless.CrutyRammers said:
And in the real world? You know, when you're trying to get to work?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=lkelJy3qVhMCrutyRammers said:
jamei303 said:
If the above isn't possible due to one or both lights remaining red, wait for a uniformed police constable to arrive and provide directions, or perform a U-turn and find a different route.
And in the real world? You know, when you're trying to get to work? I've been known to pick up and throw temp road signs when they're obstructing the lane for no good reason, this situation isn't much different.
The trouble is these companies pay peanuts and get monkeys, they then give said monkeys orders to follow which they then do without any application of common sense.
If i'm driving down a narrow lane and some fool has blocked the lane with a temp sign every 100 meters for half a mile before the obstruction that is actually less obstructive than the signs, then one morning those signs are going to end up in the nearest field.
Edited by lyonspride on Tuesday 12th February 14:40
Something that occurred to me since posting this - Is the temporary light valid without the sign saying "Stop here when red light shows"? Fixed traffic lights have a fixed line, I figure that sign serves as a temporary line. I've had a quick shufti through the Highway Code and can't find anything about it.
wst said:
Something that occurred to me since posting this - Is the temporary light valid without the sign saying "Stop here when red light shows"? Fixed traffic lights have a fixed line, I figure that sign serves as a temporary line. I've had a quick shufti through the Highway Code and can't find anything about it.
Fixed traffic lights have a stop line which you must stop at. However the TSRGD states:"where there is no stop line or the stop line is not visible, references to “stop line” are—
(a) in a case where a sign provided for at item 58, 59 or 60 of the Part 2 sign table ("wait here when red light shows" and its variants) is placed, to be treated as references to that sign; and
(b) in any other case, to be treated as references to the post or other structure on which the primary signals are mounted."
So with no stop line you must treat the sign as a stop line. Without either you treat the signal post itself as the stop line.
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