Opine on this example of offsiding

Opine on this example of offsiding

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Haltamer

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2,554 posts

87 months

Wednesday 5th December 2018
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https://youtu.be/j6cQisRGysU?t=687

I'm a little undecided on this. I'd say the offsiding from the ford is a little enthusiatic / aggressive, however, he's on the ball and already tucking in to NS upon the emergence of oncoming.

That said, he's broken the alarm / distress rule, and the camera car has visibly gone on the brakes.

On reflection, I'd say he (The ford) has been a tad too keen, and should have restrained his venture into the offside a little earlier, given that it's an amber back signed, anti-skid coated closed view corner.. Anywhom; What do you think?

akirk

5,621 posts

121 months

Wednesday 5th December 2018
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he is offsiding on a section of road bending first to the right, before the left bend the camera car comes around, so potentially closing down view at that point...

he has also just passed another car going ahead of the camera car, so has come out quite rapidly and aggressively, rather than the offsiding being the result of sitting out to maximise view down the straight approaching a left only bend... this means that he has performed a fairly high speed jink right and then left, rather than a gentle elegant offside curving back in - more hazardous...

actual point of return doesn’t seem too dangerous / close, but other than that I am not seeing much advantage, so not terribly good driving...

RobM77

35,349 posts

241 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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In my humble opinion, he's out way too far and stays out too long. He's practically on the wrong side of the road.

Bumblebee7

1,533 posts

82 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Too wide and seems very unnecessary for that particular corner. Pulls in with enough time to spare but not great driving IMO.

Graveworm

8,573 posts

78 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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RobM77 said:
In my humble opinion, he's out way too far and stays out too long. He's practically on the wrong side of the road.
What's the wrong side? smile
I am with the it probably didn't add much there.

Edited by Graveworm on Thursday 6th December 10:39

MuscleSaloon

1,597 posts

182 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Too far out for too long going into that situation for sure. Perhaps I missed something but the road the car was coming down looked relatively straight ?

johnao

672 posts

250 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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akirk said:
he is offsiding on a section of road bending first to the right, before the left bend the camera car comes around, so potentially closing down view at that point...

he has also just passed another car going ahead of the camera car, so has come out quite rapidly and aggressively, rather than the offsiding being the result of sitting out to maximise view down the straight approaching a left only bend... this means that he has performed a fairly high speed jink right and then left, rather than a gentle elegant offside curving back in - more hazardous...

actual point of return doesn’t seem too dangerous / close, but other than that I am not seeing much advantage, so not terribly good driving...
He's broken the basic rule of offsiding:

"Only go offside to extend a view that you've already got. Never go offside looking for a view."

He had just passed a vehicle going the other way. He had therefore moved offside very abruptly in order to try and obtain a view that he didn't already have.

It seems to me that this is likely to be a case of a little bit of knowledge (about offsiding) as a dangerous thing (causing an oncomimg car to change speed and/or direction).

If he was to ask himself the question... "would I want to meet myself coming the other way?"... I would like to think the answer would be an emphatic NO!

However, it's equally possible that the driver knows nothing about "offsiding to extend the view". We may be giving him a modicum of benefit-of-the-doubt where none is due. It's possible he was just trying to "line the car up for the bend"... "like what I was taught to do on a track day with me and my mates, officer".rolleyes

akirk

5,621 posts

121 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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johnao said:
akirk said:
he is offsiding on a section of road bending first to the right, before the left bend the camera car comes around, so potentially closing down view at that point...

he has also just passed another car going ahead of the camera car, so has come out quite rapidly and aggressively, rather than the offsiding being the result of sitting out to maximise view down the straight approaching a left only bend... this means that he has performed a fairly high speed jink right and then left, rather than a gentle elegant offside curving back in - more hazardous...

actual point of return doesn’t seem too dangerous / close, but other than that I am not seeing much advantage, so not terribly good driving...
He's broken the basic rule of offsiding:

"Only go offside to extend a view that you've already got. Never go offside looking for a view."

He had just passed a vehicle going the other way. He had therefore moved offside very abruptly in order to try and obtain a view that he didn't already have.

It seems to me that this is likely to be a case of a little bit of knowledge (about offsiding) as a dangerous thing (causing an oncomimg car to change speed and/or direction).

If he was to ask himself the question... "would I want to meet myself coming the other way?"... I would like to think the answer would be an emphatic NO!

However, it's equally possible that the driver knows nothing about "offsiding to extend the view". We may be giving him a modicum of benefit-of-the-doubt where none is due. It's possible he was just trying to "line the car up for the bend"... "like what I was taught to do on a track day with me and my mates, officer".rolleyes
I think to be fair - it is simply terribly bad driving biggrin
as he came out at roughly the point at which he should have been going back in, he should never have come out...