Advanced / Police Driver Training

[Chris200]

I have had a look at the links page but not that useful to be honest and a lot out of date or not working.

I am keen to do an advanced driver training or a course similar to the Police driver training but there is so many companies and options out there I am looking for personal recommendations.

I am look for a car provided course over 1-3 days that is based on "on the road" and not track related.

Any personal recommendations will be welcome.

Thanks
Chris

[tumble dryer]

Reg Local. Search. HIGHLY recommended.

[Chris200]

tumble dryer said:

Reg Local. Search. HIGHLY recommended.

Sorry, but I must be misunderstanding your reply, would you be kind enough to explain?

[vonhosen]

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?h=...

[akirk]

It might help if you share something of your experience as that is quite an advanced level - have you done other advanced driving?

Reg Local is a member on here who is generally recommended as being good etc. also the High Performance Course which is a two / two and a half day course, but for that you may need some experience previously...

several others, but if you tell us more about yourself we could help more accurately

[tumble dryer]

Chris200 said:

tumble dryer said:

Reg Local. Search. HIGHLY recommended.

Sorry, but I must be misunderstanding your reply, would you be kind enough to explain?

Clicky: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=16...

Take a wander through his posts.

[Chris200]

Cool thanks all, will have a read through the posts and look at is website.

[Chris200]

akirk said:

It might help if you share something of your experience as that is quite an advanced level - have you done other advanced driving?

Reg Local is a member on here who is generally recommended as being good etc. also the High Performance Course which is a two / two and a half day course, but for that you may need some experience previously...

several others, but if you tell us more about yourself we could help more accurately

Fair point so here goes.

Not done any advanced driver training but have done many a track day in the past and always considered myself as half decent/reasonable in terms of car control and assessing the situation and reading the road.

Always had performance cars starting with my Rover 220 GSi Turbo, through Seat Leon Cupra R, couple of Evo 8's, VXR8, C63 and currently an E63. So some very different vehicles in every way.

Anything else that you think might be relevant?

[Wiccan of Darkness]

Chris200 said:

Fair point so here goes.

Not done any advanced driver training but have done many a track day in the past and always considered myself as half decent/reasonable in terms of car control and assessing the situation and reading the road.

Always had performance cars starting with my Rover 220 GSi Turbo, through Seat Leon Cupra R, couple of Evo 8's, VXR8, C63 and currently an E63. So some very different vehicles in every way.

Anything else that you think might be relevant?

That's a good start, but how do you know you're half decent if you've had no advanced training

You could be extremely good, or utterly terrible. A day with Reg is a start but I would suggest a copy of roadcraft to read on the loo and a course with the IAM is the way forward. I learnt more in a week with the IAM than I did in the 2 years after I passed my test. I thought I was a brilliant driver and rapidly discovered I was just extremely lucky, notwithstanding the umpteen occasions I was "unlucky" (which had nothing to do with me being utter ste )

The IAM course is a whole new level and works through the system [of car control] in a systematic way.

Clicky
https://www.iamroadsmart.com

Have a read through that website, input your local details to find a local group and give them a call. Anything from a single hour observational drive all the way to specific driving courses - it's all there.

Loved every minute of it, and I couldn't recommend it highly enough.

[ian in lancs]

Wiccan of Darkness said:

Chris200 said:

Fair point so here goes.

Not done any advanced driver training but have done many a track day in the past and always considered myself as half decent/reasonable in terms of car control and assessing the situation and reading the road.

Always had performance cars starting with my Rover 220 GSi Turbo, through Seat Leon Cupra R, couple of Evo 8's, VXR8, C63 and currently an E63. So some very different vehicles in every way.

Anything else that you think might be relevant?

That's a good start, but how do you know you're half decent if you've had no advanced training

You could be extremely good, or utterly terrible. A day with Reg is a start but I would suggest a copy of roadcraft to read on the loo and a course with the IAM is the way forward. I learnt more in a week with the IAM than I did in the 2 years after I passed my test. I thought I was a brilliant driver and rapidly discovered I was just extremely lucky, notwithstanding the umpteen occasions I was "unlucky" (which had nothing to do with me being utter ste )

The IAM course is a whole new level and works through the system [of car control] in a systematic way.

Clicky
https://www.iamroadsmart.com

Have a read through that website, input your local details to find a local group and give them a call. Anything from a single hour observational drive all the way to specific driving courses - it's all there.

Loved every minute of it, and I couldn't recommend it highly enough.

Agreed! IAM also do taster / demo runs.

[akirk]

would agree - sign up for a RoSPA or IAM course and go in with an open mind and willingness to learn - their courses are based on roadcraft - the foundation of police driving and once you have that under your belt you can look at more advanced options, but advanced driving is an endless journey of improvement where the satisfaction comes from seeing yourself get better and better - not from achieving awards or qualifications so start with the infrastructure those organisations will provide and use that as a platform to go further...

regarding your comment about links - the main advanced driving forum is at: www.advanceddrivinghub.com and is active...

[S. Gonzales Esq.]

It's worth bearing in mind that the actual Police courses can amount to several weeks of full-time training over a number of years, not to mention daily practice (with the benefit of speed limit exemptions) in between.

Three days (or an IAM / RoSPA course) is a good start, but it won't be quite the same thing.

[Dr Jekyll]

S. Gonzales Esq. said:

It's worth bearing in mind that the actual Police courses can amount to several weeks of full-time training over a number of years, not to mention daily practice (with the benefit of speed limit exemptions) in between.

Three days (or an IAM / RoSPA course) is a good start, but it won't be quite the same thing.

Bear in mind that ROSPA gold is supposed to signify that the candidate 'would have the potential to do well on a police advanced course if given the opportunity' and the entry standard for the 2 day HPC course is regarded as slightly higher than that. So from that level learning the rudiments of police advanced driving should be achievable for a civilian, especially since we aren't interested in the blue light stuff.

[Ki3r]

S. Gonzales Esq. said:

It's worth bearing in mind that the actual Police courses can amount to several weeks of full-time training over a number of years, not to mention daily practice (with the benefit of speed limit exemptions) in between.

Three days (or an IAM / RoSPA course) is a good start, but it won't be quite the same thing.

Three weeks for a standard response course, around 100hrs. Then another four weeks for the advanced.

Tomorrow I start week two of my course. I've been driving for ten years and believed I was average/above average...I've learnt I'm not. When we had a demo drive from the instructor it was unbelievable.

Best tips I have, get a copy of road craft. It's boring to read, really boring. Not going to lie, I didn't understand it at all when reading it. But once I was shown things (limit point for example) it makes so much sense.

[waremark]

Strong recommendation for a half day assessment with one of the two High Performance Course managers. Google it, both former Advanced Police instructors, extensive track experience, coaching refined over a long period of helping civilian enthusiasts. One based Banbury, one south Wales.

[R0G]

Chris200 said:

I have had a look at the links page but not that useful to be honest and a lot out of date or not working.

I am keen to do an advanced driver training or a course similar to the Police driver training but there is so many companies and options out there I am looking for personal recommendations.

I am look for a car provided course over 1-3 days that is based on "on the road" and not track related.

Any personal recommendations will be welcome.

Thanks
Chris

Which part of the UK are you in Chris ?

[AnotherGareth]

In case it's not clear, Chris200, each of the options mentioned so far requires you to provide the car in which the training is carried out.

[SVS]

waremark said:

Strong recommendation for a half day assessment with one of the two High Performance Course managers. Google it, both former Advanced Police instructors, extensive track experience, coaching refined over a long period of helping civilian enthusiasts. One based Banbury, one south Wales.

+another strong recommendation for the High Performance Course. Utterly brilliant.

The standard of instruction for the High Performance Course is outstanding. (HPC is taught far better than the IAM and RoSPA, in my experience, and I’ve been an IAM Observer.)

[Chris200]

R0G said:

Which part of the UK are you in Chris ?

Hants/Surrey border.

[Chris200]

AnotherGareth said:

In case it's not clear, Chris200, each of the options mentioned so far requires you to provide the car in which the training is carried out.

Thanks mate. I would prefer a course where I don'y have to use my own car.