Always be in the left most lane in roadworks?

Always be in the left most lane in roadworks?

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willmagrath

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1,250 posts

153 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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Hi all, I'm having an argument with my father.

While on the M1 yesterday, he was driving through one of these 50mph average speed sections, but stayed glued to the middle lane despite the lane 1 being clear. This annoyed a few lorries etc as he had the cruise dead on 50mph.

When I questioned this, he said the highway code says you shouldn't be changing lanes through roadworks. I disagree!

Who's right?!!

Reg Local

2,690 posts

215 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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Ask him to show you the relevant section in the highway code. Then you'll know who's right.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

115 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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Some roadworks have notices saying Keep in Lane

Others have narrow lanes on the outer lane

Pica-Pica

14,479 posts

91 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
Some roadworks have notices saying Keep in Lane

Others have narrow lanes on the outer lane
If crowded, I will stay in lane, if empty-ish, usual M-way rules apply. Any stay in lane will be either on gantry, or on a yellow sign. As far as I know there is no obligatory stay in lane sign.
Downloaded this as PDF to re-read

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...

Dogwatch

6,274 posts

229 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
Some roadworks have notices saying Keep in Lane
I think the OP's dad has got confused about this.


SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

115 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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Also, some tunnels say Keep in Lane

Mersey And. Dartford for example

lucido grigio

44,044 posts

170 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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Next time he has 44 tonnes and angry driver 6 feet off his bumper in the middle lane,ask him what to do to prevent it.

LH lane at all times if it's clear.

Yipper

5,964 posts

97 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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Dominate the lane. Don't let anyone past.

Pica-Pica

14,479 posts

91 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
Also, some tunnels say Keep in Lane

Mersey And. Dartford for example
Well, Dartford tunnels have double white lines, so should be no need for signs (yes some people do cross, and yes there are cameras in the tunnels for traffic flow)

Pothole

34,367 posts

289 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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He's a fool and a dangerous one at that. He's also not the bloody arbiter of anyone else's speed. Keep left.

Cosifantutte

19 posts

90 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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willmagrath said:
While on the M1 yesterday, he was driving through one of these 50mph average speed sections, but stayed glued to the middle lane despite the lane 1 being clear. This annoyed a few lorries etc as he had the cruise dead on 50mph.
Surely the lorries prefer to stay in the wider lane 1 ie overtaking on the inside?

Faced with an faster lorry behind me driving a car in lane 1 where there is an overtaking restriction on said lorry, I have moved over to lane 2 to allow it to go past me in lane 1.

Cosifantutte

19 posts

90 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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Lorry drivers do often seem to dislike temporary speed limits.

In Germany I have been on long stretches of roadworks where the limit is 80km/h for cars and 60km/h for lorries, and found myself going along at 80km/h being almost pushed by a lorry behind!

BertBert

19,709 posts

218 months

Monday 14th August 2017
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yes the MLMs in the 50 roadworks sections are very irritating. It's still keep left unless overtaking.

esxste

3,936 posts

113 months

Monday 14th August 2017
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Yep, keep left unless signs say otherwise. Usually the "stay in lane" signs were because average speed cams needed people to be in the same lane.


jmorgan

36,010 posts

291 months

Monday 14th August 2017
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BertBert said:
yes the MLMs in the 50 roadworks sections are very irritating. It's still keep left unless overtaking.
In a three lane section of limited works, the dawdler at 45 in the middle is an absolute pain in the neck. A lot more than irritating when you have a limiter fitted.

Speary8

76 posts

92 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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Set cruise at 55, actual speed in my car is 53, well below what any 50 avg speed cameras are set at. Get out into the right hand lane and avoid sitting alongside HGV's. If anybody wants to wizz past then move over and let them get on with it.
IMHO much safer than mixing it with HGV's / caravans in the left hand lanes where there is very little room for drifting / wandering.

BertBert

19,709 posts

218 months

Thursday 17th August 2017
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Why would you sit in the rh lane? It's rude and lazy.
Bert

therag3

22 posts

99 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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Funnily enough, I remember my old man saying a similar thing. I wonder whether this "rule" has been spread, erroneously, at some point in the past meaning people of a certain age have accepted it as truth...

mac96

4,435 posts

150 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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My recollection is that years ago 'stay in lane ' signage was much more common at roadworks than it is now, so people of a certain age (such as me!) may have it embedded in their subconscious.

It may perhaps have been designed to encourage compliance with the temporary speed limit when there was no camera enforcement?

Pica-Pica

14,479 posts

91 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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mac96 said:
My recollection is that years ago 'stay in lane ' signage was much more common at roadworks than it is now, so people of a certain age (such as me!) may have it embedded in their subconscious.

It may perhaps have been designed to encourage compliance with the temporary speed limit when there was no camera enforcement?
It was to stop people keep swapping lanes, but has little effect on A282's QE2 bridge.