Advice wanted regarding advanced driver training
Discussion
Hi everyone.
Long time PH member, but not lurked in here before.
I'm interested in doing advanced driver training, because whilst I'm not bad, I'm probably not as good as I'd like to think. I'm pretty progressive in my thinking (i.e. happy to admit when I'm wrong, willing to put the ego away and happy to respect instructors) and I'm after working with an organisation/group who will take my current abilities/attitudes and make me better.
Over the last 3 or so years I've learned to ride a motorcycle (and ridden in mainland Europe), passed Bikesafe, become a qualified pilot and obtained my IMC rating, and I've had my car license since about 2001. So, I know my brain and body are capable of learning these sorts of advanced techniques.
My reluctance to do this before now is because I have briefly been a member of an organisation, and to be honest, they appeared really, really pious, and that totally put me off. I'm also a little allergic to club social hierarchies and alpha conflicts (on my bike MOD1 I had one instructor tell me to use the rear brake to stabilise the U-turn, and the very next day another told me I mustn't and that I was lying/wrong to tell him that I had been told otherwise by his colleague - seriously?!). I'll deal with it if I have to, but to be honest that sort of nonsense normally detracts from the effectiveness of the training - i.e. its a waste.
I'm after straightforward no BS advanced driver training without the alpha-male-ism.
So, who should I approach?
Thank you.
Long time PH member, but not lurked in here before.
I'm interested in doing advanced driver training, because whilst I'm not bad, I'm probably not as good as I'd like to think. I'm pretty progressive in my thinking (i.e. happy to admit when I'm wrong, willing to put the ego away and happy to respect instructors) and I'm after working with an organisation/group who will take my current abilities/attitudes and make me better.
Over the last 3 or so years I've learned to ride a motorcycle (and ridden in mainland Europe), passed Bikesafe, become a qualified pilot and obtained my IMC rating, and I've had my car license since about 2001. So, I know my brain and body are capable of learning these sorts of advanced techniques.
My reluctance to do this before now is because I have briefly been a member of an organisation, and to be honest, they appeared really, really pious, and that totally put me off. I'm also a little allergic to club social hierarchies and alpha conflicts (on my bike MOD1 I had one instructor tell me to use the rear brake to stabilise the U-turn, and the very next day another told me I mustn't and that I was lying/wrong to tell him that I had been told otherwise by his colleague - seriously?!). I'll deal with it if I have to, but to be honest that sort of nonsense normally detracts from the effectiveness of the training - i.e. its a waste.
I'm after straightforward no BS advanced driver training without the alpha-male-ism.
So, who should I approach?
Thank you.
Andy Morrison or Clive Jones - http://www.high-performance-course.com/course-mana...
Both excellent, but have different coaching styles so worth a chat with both to check fit.
Both excellent, but have different coaching styles so worth a chat with both to check fit.
Assuming the organisation that you refer to is the IAM (or possibly RoADAR) see if they've got an observer of your own age, who will be less anal about the processes and group politics.
I can vouch for Andy, but IMO you'll get more from coaches of Andy & Clive's calibre if you've got a grounding of Roadcraft (or IAM's interpretation)
Also, try popping over to ADHub http://www.advanceddrivinghub.com/forum/index.php
You may find someone to drive with informally there who can give you a few pointers
I can vouch for Andy, but IMO you'll get more from coaches of Andy & Clive's calibre if you've got a grounding of Roadcraft (or IAM's interpretation)
Also, try popping over to ADHub http://www.advanceddrivinghub.com/forum/index.php
You may find someone to drive with informally there who can give you a few pointers
jamesallport said:
Andy Morrison or Clive Jones - http://www.high-performance-course.com/course-mana...
Both excellent, but have different coaching styles so worth a chat with both to check fit.
+1 Both excellent, but have different coaching styles so worth a chat with both to check fit.
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