Motorway patrols

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SBQuattro

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687 posts

187 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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Why do Police insist on patrolling the motorways at 69 mph ?

It causes a massive pile up of traffic behind them, as nobody can pass without breaking the speed limit.

Do they never wonder why they cannot see a car for miles in front of them, but have a mirror full of cars ?

Surely it would be more sensible to patrol at 55 mph ish, to allow traffic to slip by and keep the traffic flow running more smoothly.


Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

192 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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So everyone has to obey the speed limit?

Radical, I admit.

Slobberchops

3,627 posts

207 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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Most either do well under, or well over.

SBQuattro

Original Poster:

687 posts

187 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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But even by patrolling at 55 mph the Police are showing a presence, and everyone in the vicinity will be on their best behaviour.

It will have the same result but without causing the massive back up in traffic.

Surely safety and smooth traffic flow is more important than a couple of mph here or there.

I wonder if forces have an actual official policy on how to patrol.

Frix

678 posts

197 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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55 mph is slower than HGV's are limited to. Does that seem sensible to you? Especially given your reason for 69 being no good. There is no official policy (at least in my force) but it is rare that we will run down the motorway at 70. We recognise that people don't pass but you'll get people slowing even if we were at 55.

340600

554 posts

149 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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It's the classic "police car bubble" problem. In my area those who work on the motorway will usually cruise well below the limit or slightly above it at 75-80 in order to let the traffic flow.

7db

6,058 posts

236 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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Cruising at 55 is clever.

It's slow enough that everyone recognises they can pass and get on with it.

Also: it's more visible policing. Cruise at 70 and only about 20 people see the presence -- the 20 stuck immediately behind. Cruise slower --- or -- to an extreme: sit in a van at the side of the road and nearly everyone knows that there's a traffic presence.

jimmy the hat

429 posts

153 months

Monday 9th September 2013
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7db said:
Cruising at 55 is clever.

It's slow enough that everyone recognises they can pass and get on with it.

Also: it's more visible policing. Cruise at 70 and only about 20 people see the presence -- the 20 stuck immediately behind. Cruise slower --- or -- to an extreme: sit in a van at the side of the road and nearly everyone knows that there's a traffic presence.
Aside from the HGV point, it's not clever because not everybody would recongise as much. Even on here there are people who don't know what the NSL sign means or what the speed limit is on a Dual-Carriageway. Even what constitutes a dual carriageway. Imagine how many people there are who don't routinely visit motoring websites who neither know nor care enough to find out. A Police car could cruise at 40mph on the motorway and there'd be a significant number of people who'd refuse to overtake. Quite often the "presence" results in all lanes doing exactly the same speed and nobody overtaking anything.

It's not OB's fault that people are morons, to be fair.

Cheers, Jim

Howard-

4,958 posts

208 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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SBQuattro said:
Surely it would be more sensible to patrol at 55 mph ish
Probably not. People are stupid, and therefore will be scared to overtake wink

Howard-

4,958 posts

208 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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SBQuattro said:
Surely it would be more sensible to patrol at 55 mph ish
Probably not. People are stupid, and therefore will be scared to overtake wink

simon1987

401 posts

141 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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people have no bottle, everyone knows the unofficial motorway speed limit is 90mph. As long as your driving to conditions only a total jobsworth copper would pull you over.

bad company

19,413 posts

272 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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simon1987 said:
people have no bottle, everyone knows the unofficial motorway speed limit is 90mph. As long as your driving to conditions only a total jobsworth copper would pull you over.
Have you heard of the latest invention? They are called 'Speed Cameras'.

Blakewater

4,348 posts

163 months

Friday 20th September 2013
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Coming out of the Lake District down towards the M6 on the A590 I was in a line of traffic behind a police car. We came to a little bit of dual carriageway and a couple of young guys in a Peugeot hammered past be before seeing the police car and squeezing between me and the car in front. When we got to the proper stretch of dual carriageway the police officer only accelerated up to 55mph. No one who was behind dared pass him so I just passed the lot, including the guys who'd passed me. Most would have probably set off like nuts if it hadn't been for the police car but because they didn't have a clue what the speed limit was they didn't dare pass it.
On the other hand, I find most police officers cruise on the motorway at around 80mph so they aren't holding up the traffic flow and anyone who tries to pass them is definitely taking the mickey.

Vipers

33,068 posts

234 months

Friday 20th September 2013
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SBQuattro said:
Why do Police insist on patrolling the motorways at 69 mph ?

It causes a massive pile up of traffic behind them, as nobody can pass without breaking the speed limit.

Do they never wonder why they cannot see a car for miles in front of them, but have a mirror full of cars ?

Surely it would be more sensible to patrol at 55 mph ish, to allow traffic to slip by and keep the traffic flow running more smoothly.
I usn ally cruise past them a tad over 70, no problems so far. A lot of people are so paranoid at passing a police car.




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Ray Luxury-Yacht

8,914 posts

222 months

Friday 20th September 2013
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Happy days in my book - I couldn't care less WHAT speed a Bib is doing on a motorway, it's just nice to actually see a bloody patrol these days...almost a luxury even!

I would rather share the roads with ten million patrol cars doing 69 mph than with the shocking numpties and idiots we have to these days...texting, not paying attention, driving too close to the car in front, sitting in lane 2, changing lanes without looking or indicating...etc...etc...


Blakewater

4,348 posts

163 months

Friday 20th September 2013
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Vipers said:
I usn ally cruise past them a tad over 70, no problems so far. A lot of people are so paranoid at passing a police car.




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I recall someone on here saying he got pulled over for that by a police officer who said he was basically taking the mickey passing a marked police car travelling at the posted speed limit. You'll get away with it if the police car is unmarked but you'll be lucky with a marked one. Theoretically you should be allowed a 10% grace over the limit to allow for variations in accuracy between speedometers.

Vipers

33,068 posts

234 months

Saturday 21st September 2013
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Blakewater said:
Vipers said:
I usn ally cruise past them a tad over 70, no problems so far. A lot of people are so paranoid at passing a police car.




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I recall someone on here saying he got pulled over for that by a police officer who said he was basically taking the mickey passing a marked police car travelling at the posted speed limit. You'll get away with it if the police car is unmarked but you'll be lucky with a marked one. Theoretically you should be allowed a 10% grace over the limit to allow for variations in accuracy between speedometers.
There is away one plod who is an ahole, maybe he had a bad day. No doubt the guy who got pulled wasn't charged with anything, as he didn't do anything wrong.



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s70rmp

662 posts

135 months

Sunday 22nd September 2013
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also helps there mpg for the patrol period.

cupraray

43 posts

132 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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SBQuattro said:
Why do Police insist on patrolling the motorways at 69 mph ?

It causes a massive pile up of traffic behind them, as nobody can pass without breaking the speed limit.

Do they never wonder why they cannot see a car for miles in front of them, but have a mirror full of cars ?

Surely it would be more sensible to patrol at 55 mph ish, to allow traffic to slip by and keep the traffic flow running more smoothly.
Ive overtaken many said patrol cars at a hovering 80mph with no problem

Dave Hedgehog

14,671 posts

210 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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the worst thing is when they sit in lane 3 doing 75 and wont pull over even thou lane 2 is empty ...