Slowish Vehicle, off slip, dual carriageway

[Willy Nilly]

Dear PH driving beards,

Occasionally I have to use a NSL DC on my tractor, it shifts for a tractor, but is still the slowest vehicle on the road. When I leave said DC I need to use the off slip which is also a DC (well it has two lanes) and turn right. So, do I get in lane 2 as soon as I leave the DC, or leave it later and try to nudge my way across traffic? There is a roundabout at the end with traffic lights, so the traffic normally stops, but I am not sure if people are muttering to themselves about the selfish tosser on the tractor in lane 2 or admiring my forward planning.

[FussyFez]

Whilst training for PCV test, my instructor would tell me, in this situation, to join the slip in the left lane, then move to the right as soon as it is safe to do so. I should imagine the same would apply for a tractor. But the general public won't agree, and probably think you shouldn't even be there in the first place.

Don't hog the lane if you can see faster moving traffic approaching, but also don't leave it too late.

Just use your judgement and I'm sure all will be ok.

[simoid]

Dual Carriageway means carriageways (of any number of lanes) which are separated by a physical divide (ie not just paint).

The slip road with 2 lanes does not a dual carriageway make

[R0G]

Long 2 lane slip road then keep left for as long as possible

short slip road then you will probably need to keep right but be mindful that others can legally 'overtake' you on the nearside

There are very few 2 laned off slips that are not duals

[7db]

Ah - it's good for the soul to drive the slowest vehicle on the road. I reckon you get right early for the junction with long early signals and watch the mosquitos swarm around you on both sides.

As ROG says unless it's a really really long slip road I'd be getting right at the start of it and indicating right so that other traffic passes on your nearside.

[simoid]

R0G said:

There are very few 2 laned off slips that are not duals

You what?

[7db]

I would treat the status of a slip road the same as that of the main road for dual / single status for speed limit purposes. Even though it usually has a give way at each end and could be easily treated as a short one-way road.

[simoid]

In the context of the OP

Willy Nilly said:

When I leave said DC I need to use the off slip which is also a DC (well it has two lanes) and turn right.

2 lanes does not a dual carriageway make

[blueg33]

simoid said:

2 lanes does not a dual carriageway make

No, a barrier between carraigeway's does. Most 2 lane slip roads I have seen, have a barrier and the main carraigeway and then another barrier before you get to the opposite carraigeway. Surely that makes it a dual carraigeway?

[simoid]

blueg33 said:

simoid said:

2 lanes does not a dual carriageway make

No, a barrier between carraigeway's does. Most 2 lane slip roads I have seen, have a barrier and the main carraigeway and then another barrier before you get to the opposite carraigeway. Surely that makes it a dual carraigeway?

Is a roundabout a dual carriageway? What about two one way streets next to each other



I'm just saying that the number of lanes is irrelevant

[R0G]

Technically a rounabout in a NSL is a 70 limit but I doubt it is possible to actually do that speed on one without losing it !!

A 1 or 2 lane slip road coming off a NSL dual or motorway where there is not any oncoming lanes is also a 70 limit

[blueg33]

simoid said:

Is a roundabout a dual carriageway? What about two one way streets next to each other



I'm just saying that the number of lanes is irrelevant

Od course number of lanes is irrelevant, but that doesn't mean that a slip road isn't a dual carraigeway.

[7db]

Where is the second carriageway in a roundabout? It's a one way road with a curve...

And ROG - I could quite happily get to 70 on some roundabouts...

[Himself]

R0G said:

Technically a rounabout in a NSL is a 70 limit but I doubt it is possible to actually do that speed on one without losing it !!

A 1 or 2 lane slip road coming off a NSL dual or motorway where there is not any oncoming lanes is also a 70 limit

Surely it depends on the class of vehicle?

[simoid]

blueg33 said:

simoid said:

Is a roundabout a dual carriageway? What about two one way streets next to each other



I'm just saying that the number of lanes is irrelevant

Od course number of lanes is irrelevant, but that doesn't mean that a slip road isn't a dual carraigeway.

Indeed.

The OP thought it did.

[R0G]

Himself said:

R0G said:

Technically a rounabout in a NSL is a 70 limit but I doubt it is possible to actually do that speed on one without losing it !!

A 1 or 2 lane slip road coming off a NSL dual or motorway where there is not any oncoming lanes is also a 70 limit

Surely it depends on the class of vehicle?

I was referring to cars

[simoid]

R0G said:

Himself said:

R0G said:

Technically a rounabout in a NSL is a 70 limit but I doubt it is possible to actually do that speed on one without losing it !!

A 1 or 2 lane slip road coming off a NSL dual or motorway where there is not any oncoming lanes is also a 70 limit

Surely it depends on the class of vehicle?

I was referring to cars

In a thread about a tractor?

[Himself]

simoid said:

In a thread about a tractor?

Exactly

[R0G]

Well, the thread did diverse into the dual speed limits

For a tractor it would not matter about duals .... super turbo tractor maybe !!

[jaspermolly]

Jeez why is this called the advanced driving forum,joining or leaving a motorway is not what I would call advanced driving,this section should be renamed back to basics.

mollyjasper